Police Caution

[Wigsie]

Merseyrail stinks of shoot. Official.

They will do all they can to prosecute normally innocent, law-abiding people for trivial offences but the most evil, nasty lowlives who've crawled from under rocks can get away with unspeakable horrors on that network with almost total impunity. Merseyrail have effectively created a net that catches the small fish and lets the big ones go free to do as they please.

Jeez, say what you really think Paul?

 

[domd1979]

They will do all they can to prosecute normally innocent, law-abiding people for trivial offences

Putting feet on seats is bloody anti-social, it isn't law abiding and tough shoot to anyone who gets caught. Its just a shame that all other train operators aren't following Merseyrail's example.

 

[PaulB]

Jeez, say what you really think Paul?

It's true. One Saturday night in August I was on a Merseyrail train with a friend of mine who lives over the water. This guy is the sort of person you wouldn't want to mess with so I felt safe when we heard the aggresive screeching noises coming up the carriage towards us. Even he was scared at the horror that confronted us and people had already got off before their stations saying they'd catch taxis home from down the line. There's no other word for the feral detritus that confronted us than "scum". They cared nothing for any law or anyone on the train. Openly smoking dope and two or three snorting beak they clearly had nothing but contempt for any CCTV or "guards" (who were too scared to enter our carriage) who might be observing them. The smallest one confronted my mate, Simon who was visibly scared, despite the size, strength and usual fearlessness of him. Very, very fortunately, one of them recognised me from going to away matches and told his mates we were "alright" but it could have been very different. They then began openly boasting of "stunts" they'd got up to and people they'd mugged of humiliated on that line in the past while we had to smile and reckon on we were okay with it all. The stories were frankly disgusting and what a contrast to what they've been getting away with routinely while the bampots who run the line pretend to be tough on crime by prosecuting people for inadvertent;y putting their feet on the fabric! They're beneath contempt.

 

[PaulB]

Putting feet on seats is bloody anti-social, it isn't law abiding and tough shoot to anyone who gets caught. Its just a shame that all other train operators aren't following Merseyrail's example.

No-one's saying it isn't but it's more anti-social to be mugged or put in fear of your life or possessions but I don't see them putting in the same effort to catch the vermin that do that. Maybe the stabbing and mugging victims of Merseyrail will feel much better knowing someone's got a police caution for putting his feet on the seats, but I doubt it.

 

[domd1979]

No-one's saying it isn't but it's more anti-social to be mugged or put in fear of your life or possessions but I don't see them putting in the same effort to catch the vermin that do that. Maybe the stabbing and mugging victims of Merseyrail will feel much better knowing someone's got a police caution for putting his feet on the seats, but I doubt it.

My understanding is that the security staff on Merseyrail have made some in-roads on anti-social behaviour, but dare say with the few they have they can't be everywhere at once. Feet on seats was a big issue for their passengers in surveys, so arguably the enforcement of that bye law is exactly what the passengers asked for.

 

[PBancroft]

WHAT?

So my so called "Fraud" caution will haunt me till the bitter end? !

Didn't affect me getting a shot gun licence so can't be that serious.

I'm really intrigued as to what heinous act of fraud you did to deserve this lifetime burden.

 

[PaulB]

My understanding is that the security staff on Merseyrail have made some in-roads on anti-social behaviour, but dare say with the few they have they can't be everywhere at once. Feet on seats was a big issue for their passengers in surveys, so arguably the enforcement of that bye law is exactly what the passengers asked for.

Yes, and that's why I'm arguing to the contrary. Here's my survey.

Who would you prefer us to prosecute?

A) Anti-social youths who smoke, drink, take drugs and generally intimidate passengers.

People who put their feet up on seats.

I wonder which way that will go?

 

[thomas]

Yes, and that's why I'm arguing to the contrary. Here's my survey.

Who would you prefer us to prosecute?

A) Anti-social youths who smoke, drink, take drugs and generally intimidate passengers.

People who put their feet up on seats.

I wonder which way that will go?

B.

 

[PaulB]

B.

Sorry, as in a general election, the mentally ill do not get a vote

 

[Gromit]

No excuse really Mersey rail have the rule plastered all over their trains. Feet on seats defiantly a no no.

 

[Gerry Attrick]

The CC verdict?.................Guilty as charged. Please have yourself flagellated with a wet lettuce immediately. The real punishment is reserved for those inadequates who have the "tish..tish..tish..clash..tish of an MP3 in their lugs.

 

[Glow worm]

America won't let you visit now...

Oh well, not all bad news then!

 

[PaulB]

I told you it stank of shoot, didn't I?

 

[darkstar]

Don't get me wrong i understand it is wrong, and we should not have done it, but to be prosecuted like that is in my opinion going too far, you can be cautioned for being caught with drugs, theft, even some sex offenses, so i am in the same category? Oh and it now seems that cautions do become spent' since 2008, straight away but stay on record for your whole life. They do step down after 10 years so only advanced CRB checks can detect them.
Oh and as for the signs i have a picture of one of them, it does, to be fair, say clearly not to put feet on seats, but then in significantly smaller text underneath the main writing it says you may be prosecuted, as it is the only company who do this surely they need to be more clear, you would have to make an effort to walk up to the sign, i could not read it from where i was sitting. Ell well seems i will be having to declare this whenever asked for visas etc Defiantly no chance of working with children.

 

[vernon]

Merseyrail stinks of shoot. Official.

They will do all they can to prosecute normally innocent, law-abiding people for trivial offences but the most evil, nasty lowlives who've crawled from under rocks can get away with unspeakable horrors on that network with almost total impunity. Merseyrail have effectively created a net that catches the small fish and lets the big ones go free to do as they please.

By looking after the small things, the big things look after themselves or so I was lead to believe when working in retail many years ago. Seemed to work then - can't think of a reason for it not to work now.

Once feet on seats are eradicated then another target can be selected.