Porsche should be selling bumper cars

[Piemaster]

Back in the day some performance cars had signs on them that said "warning disc brakes" to warn following drivers that the car would stop much faster than theirs.

Coming to a pro-peloton near you soon...

 

[Tin Pot]

So, if we want to kake the roads safer why is perforamce the isssue here/ Surely banning old people, young people and poor people would make more sense?

Finally someone agrees with me!

 

[Deleted member 26715]

but it's the same 18 year old in both cars?

At the same time no wonder he crashes one of them

 

[GrumpyGregry]

With all due respect, bog off, I'll buy and spend what I like thank you.

Heroin, and handguns are all illegal no? Certain types of dogs too? Automatic weapons and the services of child prostitutes?

Like it or not you can't legally buy and spend what you like.

Consumption, even in the so-called free market has a moral dimension. Society regulates itself.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

umm, you do know the survey quoted is "driver deaths" - thus SUVs and presumably big strong heavy vehicles generally do "well"

Who cares about the plebs on their bikes? 4x4 drivers only see their pathetic sad faces as they bounce off the windscreen

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I agree, but I would also agree that carbon bikes, and fancy wheels is wasteful. The whole cycling industry is inherently wasteful. As we don't truly need the stuff that we buy. Yet, it's nice to have it if you want it.

Car culture is a marketing mans wet dream. The embodiment of the myth of fulfillment through consumption. Such marketing is designed with one goal in mind to stop the potential customer from thinking.

Is it any wonder the same lousy values cross over into cycling when most cyclists are immersed in car culture from before birth?

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Coming to a pro-peloton near you soon...

They wont

Limiting factor on a bike is front tyre adhesion...

 

[Deleted member 26715]

They wont

Limiting factor on a bike is front tyre adhesion...

Shirley, it's the lack of it, which is the limit

 

[Mr Celine]

Well, the last brown trouser moment I had cycling as a result of a motor vehicle was caused by a Porsche 911. I was on a single track road with hedges and could hear something very loud coming towards me so was already on the brakes - he came round the corner, hit his brakes and immediately locked his wheels up and missed me by inches as he skidded past, half on the road and half on the verge. Doesn't matter what sort of brakes you have, they don't improve visibility round corners or improve traction on wet, muddy country lanes.
This incident was near Midlem (where I think the tw@t lives, I've seen it parked there since), so watch out Reiver, it's in the area. It's red and has a TO55ERS type number plate.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Shirley, it's the lack of it, which is the limit

Yehbut it is limited adhesion not lacking innit, else tbe front wheel would washout on everyturn

But we are probably in violent agreement that you can lock a wheel and that is what limits a bikes ability to stopand not the braking force applied...



Now I must sleep. 07:00 am flight in the morning - sleep in sthlm breakfast in cph....








And don't call me Shirley.

 

[Tin Pot]

Now I must sleep. 07:00 am flight in the morning...
And don't call me Shirley.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

So much for sleep. Crisis conference call.

 

[mustang1]

Well, the last brown trouser moment I had cycling as a result of a motor vehicle was caused by a Porsche 911. I was on a single track road with hedges and could hear something very loud coming towards me so was already on the brakes - he came round the corner, hit his brakes and immediately locked his wheels up and missed me by inches as he skidded past, half on the road and half on the verge. Doesn't matter what sort of brakes you have, they don't improve visibility round corners or improve traction on wet, muddy country lanes.
This incident was near Midlem (where I think the tw@t lives, I've seen it parked there since), so watch out Reiver, it's in the area. It's red and has a TO55ERS type number plate.

So you mean the driver is at fault, not the car.

 

[PhilDawson8270]

[QUOTE 4025992, member: 45"]No it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
Care to off an alternative hypothesis that at 18 I couldn't insure a quicker car. Yet at 28 I can insure a faster car for less than my current one?

 

[PhilDawson8270]

[QUOTE 4026025, member: 45"]While you continue to compare apples and pears and pretend that insurance decisions are only based on one factor you'll continue to present an inaccurate picture.[/QUOTE]
Where did I state that they was on one factor? I merely proposed that the driver profiling has a greater affect of risk than the car. Obviously, there are many, many factors.