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just jim said:
So uplifting the E.N comments, aren't they?
Charming. The usual mix of tired old cliches ("you don't pay road tax") with sweeping generalisations ("I saw someone on a bike do this therefore they're all axe murderers").

PS. The irony of condeming sweeping generalisation in that post above containing, as it does, the word "usual" is not lost on me. :tongue:
 

col

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magnatom said:
Sharkybloke,

:tongue: Yes I am sure that is exactly what would happen. Perhaps I should make up a card to hand out to people with this written on it.

Just Jim,

Did you post in the wrong thread! ;)

Col,

Get a grip. It's a joke. There is no threat (I can't actually see where the threat is anyway, I suppose it depends on your definition of tackle.

Trolls work by asking a question, and if that provides an answer the troll doesn't want, they ignore the answer and ask a different question. Look at your posts col, that is exactly what you do.

Why don't you list the work you have done to further the safety of cyclists or other road users. If you can, then maybe I'll give you some respect. Until then, I can't be ar$ed with you. Sorry.

Oh i see its a joke now,thats ok then,because your such a handy bloke as youve pointed out a number of times,it was worrying.As for trolls,the amount of name calling and sarcasm from others qualifies them far more as a troll than i for just argueing a point,or is it different for them?I try to get into an argument that goes further than i expected because of the different directions it goes in to,and because i dont agree with you its a trolls behaviour,the others who have tried this old chestnut have done more trolling in their language and insults alot more than i ever have,yet its all ok for them is it?

I cant list anywork i have done to further cyclists safety,i commute and try to do it as safely and as politely as i can,but if i have to go out and do what you do before you think me worthy,then it shows your attitude is misplaced in some way.you cant be arsed with me because i dont work at what you do on the roads?well if thats what your all about ,i cant be arsed with you,its called self righteousness,and getting to think your more important than you actually are.Get a grip,if someone doesnt agree with you ,so what,but your not getting the bow down to the superior intelect from me,so im a troll.And apologies only mean something if they are meant,not hollow words which yours are,so dont do it.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

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Location
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Jesus, Col - a couple of things...

Learn to type. Reading your diatribe hurts my eyes... u s e s o m e s p a c e s.

Secondly, it's not 'dishonest' in any way - he's not telling them that he's NOT recording them (and then recording them) so he's not lying to them (and thus being dishonest). If you feel that it is any way 'underhand' by not asking their permission before recording them, then so be it... if you can't see how it would affect any truthful reaction they may give once they know they're being recorded then you're just a bit dim.
 

col

Legendary Member
Sh4rkyBloke said:
Jesus, Col - a couple of things...

Learn to type. Reading your diatribe hurts my eyes... u s e s o m e s p a c e s.

Secondly, it's not 'dishonest' in any way - he's not telling them that he's NOT recording them (and then recording them) so he's not lying to them (and thus being dishonest). If you feel that it is any way 'underhand' by not asking their permission before recording them, then so be it... if you can't see how it would affect any truthful reaction they may give once they know they're being recorded then you're just a bit dim.

I wonder how bad your eyes are,there is only one space missing?

Big thing typing isnt it,always a really bad thing that.Your obviously dim as iv never said it wouldnt effect anything said,iv just said i think its wrong.And your diatrabe is assumption as seems to be the norm with some dim people.

Oh and you dont have to call me jesus.
 
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Whatever. Your right. You win. I was wrong. Fair cop.

One thing, I will point out though. I only asked you what you have done with regards to cycling because you started suggesting that I should target thing of greater importance i.e. gangs etc, suggesting that what I did was worthless. I just wondered what great things that you had achieved to allow you to talk at me from such a mighty position.

Col many times in this dicussion I have suggested that we will probably disagree on this issue, but you continued to press every little angle that you could find. Obviously you don't like me. Fair enough.So in the end I conceed. I can't compete

You win.

Shame the thread got ruined in all of this. There has been a lot of trolling on here lately. If things don't settle soon, I'm not going to continue wasting my time on here...:biggrin:
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
I wonder how bad your eyes are,there is only one space missing?

col said:
Oh i see its a joke now,*thats ok then,*because your such a handy bloke as youve pointed out a number of times,*it was worrying.*As for trolls,*the amount of name calling and sarcasm from others qualifies them far more as a troll than i for just argueing a point,*or is it different for them?*I try to get into an argument that goes further than i expected because of the different directions it goes in to,*and because i dont agree with you its a trolls behaviour,*the others who have tried this old chestnut have done more trolling in their language and insults alot more than i ever have,*yet its all ok for them is it?
Col, spaces are required wherever you see an * above - it makes for very difficult reading without them. :biggrin: So I'd say there were a few missing, not just one.

Big thing typing isnt it,always a really bad thing that.
I'd say it was a pretty big thing, typing, especially on a forum which relies on the written word... yeah, fairly important I'd say.

Your obviously dim as iv never said it wouldnt effect anything said,iv just said i think its wrong.
Actually you said it was dishonest, which it isn't. I was merely pointing out that it was a necessity for Mags to discretely record the conversation to be able to get a natural response
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
magnatom said:
If things don't settle soon, I'm not going to continue wasting my time on here...:sad:
Don't leave us, Mags, we need your input when people want advice on cameras, riding through floods and being cheerful to ar$eholes when they get cut up. :smile:

If you learn to ignore people like Col 'don't-say-or-do-anything-to-annoy-the-motorists-or-they'll-kill-you-and-you'll-deserve-it' and Lee 'I-ride-with-no-lights-and-RLJ-cuz-I'm-dead-cool' when they are in troll mode, it's not generally too bad. :biggrin:
 
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Sh4rkyBloke said:
Don't leave us, Mags, we need your input when people want advice on cameras, riding through floods and being cheerful to ar$eholes when they get cut up. :smile:

If you learn to ignore people like Col 'don't-say-or-do-anything-to-annoy-the-motorists-or-they'll-kill-you-and-you'll-deserve-it' and Lee 'I-ride-with-no-lights-and-RLJ-cuz-I'm-dead-cool' when they are in troll mode, it's not generally too bad. :biggrin:

I really like this place, but I've wasted too much time on people picking silly holes in arguments. I am all for reasoned debate, and there have been some great ones on here. Lately, I dunno, just feels a bit argumentative for the sake of it.

Next week, I will be at a course all week and home late, so my time on here will be limited. Maybe a good thing...
 

just jim

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Sh4rkyBloke said:
Don't leave us, Mags, we need your input when people want advice on cameras, riding through floods and being cheerful to ar$eholes when they get cut up. :smile:

If you learn to ignore people like Col 'don't-say-or-do-anything-to-annoy-the-motorists-or-they'll-kill-you-and-you'll-deserve-it' and Lee 'I-ride-with-no-lights-and-RLJ-cuz-I'm-dead-cool' when they are in troll mode, it's not generally too bad. :biggrin:

+ one !
 

col

Legendary Member
magnatom said:
Whatever. Your right. You win. I was wrong. Fair cop.

One thing, I will point out though. I only asked you what you have done with regards to cycling because you started suggesting that I should target thing of greater importance i.e. gangs etc, suggesting that what I did was worthless. I just wondered what great things that you had achieved to allow you to talk at me from such a mighty position.

Col many times in this dicussion I have suggested that we will probably disagree on this issue, but you continued to press every little angle that you could find. Obviously you don't like me. Fair enough.So in the end I conceed. I can't compete

You win.

Shame the thread got ruined in all of this. There has been a lot of trolling on here lately. If things don't settle soon, I'm not going to continue wasting my time on here...:biggrin:


I asked about other targets as it was a way of saying it always seems to be the same ones that you so vigerously go for,and iv never said its worthless,again assumption seems to rear its head,im also in nothing like a mighty position,just reacting to an argument you put forward when i answered your single word question of why?
And so comes the ill try and blame him for me threatening to leave bit,well if its that important to you,i wont argue with you anymore,is that to your satisfaction?
I do like you,but some of the comments you made were a bit baiting for a retort,which i did,and which actually had me thinking you were the one getting aggressive and showing what you thought of me.I thought pressing points was the idea,its all over this forum where the smallest of detail is questioned during an argument,to the point of rediculous pedance,so i cant see how that would make me a troll either?
As far as you wasting your time on here,you dont,iv always said the cctv while out on the bike is a good idea for most reasons,all iv ever said concerning this thread is that i think secret recording of conversations is wrong.Anything else was a response to your posting a response.
I would like to hold out my hand and virtually shake yours,and we can both agree to dissagree on this,but all iv shown is that i will respond to a post made to me,as much as anyone else,and going on a very small minority of members here,i wont take name calling in any shape or form from them.
If you want to accept my apology for being too overly aggressive in my posting style,i would like to offer it,and i sincerely mean that,but if you cant accept,thats fine too,i wont argue with you anymore anyway,as you have more to offer here,than i ever can.
 

col

Legendary Member
Sh4rkyBloke said:
Don't leave us, Mags, we need your input when people want advice on cameras, riding through floods and being cheerful to ar$eholes when they get cut up. :smile:

If you learn to ignore people like Col 'don't-say-or-do-anything-to-annoy-the-motorists-or-they'll-kill-you-and-you'll-deserve-it' and Lee 'I-ride-with-no-lights-and-RLJ-cuz-I'm-dead-cool' when they are in troll mode, it's not generally too bad. :biggrin:


A very dim post.
 

col

Legendary Member
Sh4rkyBloke said:
I wonder how bad your eyes are,there is only one space missing?

Col, spaces are required wherever you see an * above - it makes for very difficult reading without them. :biggrin: So I'd say there were a few missing, not just one.

Your eyes are indeed bad,those are not missing those are extra spaces.

I'd say it was a pretty big thing, typing, especially on a forum which relies on the written word... yeah, fairly important I'd say.

Not when its just some non important thing to use as amunition because there isnt much else for you

Actually you said it was dishonest, which it isn't. I was merely pointing out that it was a necessity for Mags to discretely record the conversation to be able to get a natural response

Iv never said he wouldnt get a natural response if he did tell them,i just said i think its wrong,and in that dishonest as the argument moved on.
 
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magnatom

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Col, as you say, we'll agree to disagree and best to leave it at that.

Mods, it might be worth locking this thread. It has totally lost its original meaning and will never regain it. I'm happy for it to end here.
 

col

Legendary Member
magnatom said:
Col, as you say, we'll agree to disagree and best to leave it at that.

Mods, it might be worth locking this thread. It has totally lost its original meaning and will never regain it. I'm happy for it to end here.

Ok fair enough Mag.;)
 
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