Progress that hasn't really mattered...

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This is a counter to the thread about what has helped your cycling.

Some technology in the past 20 or 30 years has made cycling MUCH more accessible and friendly.

Ergo/STI has meant that we can click cogs out of the saddle and even mid-sprint. The change blew me away when I first used this system and I think I now ride slightly differently because I can change where I want.

Clipless pedals ... another gift from providence that has helped my riding no end.

But what about blind alleys?

Threadless headsets are one of mine, but the main one is (with reservations) the endless search for an (n+1)-cog sprocket. It seems pointless for most riders. I'm old and fat but I like to ride fast and I like to hit a hill (not always pretty or dignified). Nonetheless, I fare no better with 10 on my cassette than I did with 7.

I have a boy who does a few TTs, and I can see that he might thrive with a tightly-packed cassette, but most of us are dreaming if we think we benefit from this ratio overload.

For the serious and accomplished racer, I can see the merit of ten or eleven doodahs on the thingy, but for most of us it is no more practical or desirable in the real world than a car that does 200mph.

I did the jump (always slightly behind the mavens) from five to six, to seven... I've stopped at ten, but the bike with nine is the better tool for most things.

Any other blind alleys?

PS. Don't disagree with me on the above. I'm right. God told me so, so you'll go to Hell if you say I'm wrong.
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
All modern saddles.

None compare to a Brooks.
 

Demonclimber

Climbing Ninja
Ahh, a post that I can relate to. Yep, started my cycling career with a 5 speed block and seemed to get around perfectly OK. All right, not in the hilliest part of the country, but hey. Then, WOW, sudden jump to 10 gears with 2nd CR. Then 12; 14; 16; now on 18 on one bike and 20 on another. Has this quite massive jump in number of gears made a massive difference? It would be interesting to go back to a 6/7 speed and see. I did my fastest ever long distance triathlon with a 7 speed block - rolling country though and no big hills - and the Embrun course with an 8 speed. Would I have been any faster with an 11 speed block? Who knows. Seem to remember blocks lasting longer too; chunkier so bound to? So, to sum up M'lord. Live in a rolling, flattish bit of the country? 10 or 11 speed block?? Nah; maybe a bit of focused training tho. Live somewhere hilly? Range of gears maybe more important than number? So, what am I really trying to say? Not sure really, thank you and have a nice day.

Oh, yep, the huge and never ending proliferation of shaped, curved, wotsitted frames. Poppycock for I'd guess the majority of riders (oooooooooo, he didn't say that did he?)
 

Biker Joe

Über Member
Electronic shifters? Really can't see the point except to maximise corporate profit margins.
The mechanical ones are so smooth and efficient now.
Narrow light weight chains perhaps another one. I've noticed a large rise in chain failures recently amongst the pro peloton.

I do agree with you. Of course you're right. I don't want to go to hell.:eek:
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
With multiple speed cassettes I think this is a 'because it's there' sort of mentality on the part of manufacturers. They also have to provide a reason for people to keep buying their products. As for electronic gear change systems, what an expensive waste of time. In a few years time when something truly radical comes along users will be quietly removing them to flog on ebay.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
I only have three gears inside the hub.
Electronic shifters are just another way to consume more batteries.

Small titanium components for weight saving seem to be a bit pointless really

Also hard saddles with padded pants. Why not just have softer saddles and normal pants?
 
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Boris Bajic

Boris Bajic

Guest
I only have three gears inside the hub.
Electronic shifters are just another way to consume more batteries.

Small titanium components for weight saving seem to be a bit pointless really

Also hard saddles with padded pants. Why not just have softer saddles and normal pants?

I've consulted my own broad-minded range of views and opinions and the answer is as follows:

You're right about e-shifters. You're right about titanium. That nearly gets you a house point.

However, you are terribly wrong about hard saddles and chamoix. That is the way cycling is meant to be. It is right and proper. Please revise your opinions in line with the good sense written by other contributors to this thread. You are dangerously out of line.

Yours faithfully etc....
 
I can see the merit of ten or eleven doodahs on the thingy

Hey, I don't want to be on the thingy, let alone ten or eleven of me:eek:
 

Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
I totally agree that the 10 and 11 speed cogs make bugger all difference to average day to day cyclists. I have a road bike with 9 and I'd be as happy with 7. My fear is that it will become such an industry standard that they will no longer bother making the 7s 8s and 9s, in the same way that 5s and 6s are now less common and only really made as an after thought.
 
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Boris Bajic

Boris Bajic

Guest
I don't agree re. Electronic shifting!

I have already made it perfectly clear that dissent is not permitted on this thread.

This looks to me remarkably like rebellion.

Electronic shifters are wrong. And bad. Bad and wrong. And they smell funny. Probably.
 
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