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I used to have the best deterrent - nosy neighbours.

What door do you have on the garage, up and over or side hinged
Hinged but you can't get at them.
Yeah you can't beat nosy neighbours.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I had 3 bikes stolen in 2007, standard concrete sectional garage. I started to keep the bikes in my cellar but it was a right a palaver getting the kids bikes in and out, several times on a sunny day. :sad: Believing that nothing will stop a determined crook and that 95% like an easier target, I put a battery operated LED light at the rear window and an alarm sticker next to it, plus personal threats. :smile:

All surburban areas seem to get periodically targeted, mine is no different but mine is the only garage on my street not have been targeted since 2007. :thumbsup:

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I got some of those dummy security camera`s that run on batteries with a flashing led light and fake camera.Installed one on the front and rear of the house and 1 inside the bike storage .Just about to add a couple of "rape " alarms that trip when the cord is pulled that i intend to attach round the bike and maybe the door .
Inside the bikes are secured to wall anchors that are held in by security screws .
Door is secured with a feck off padlock that might be able to be cropped but it also has another padlock in a padlock protector that does not give enough room to attack the lock so the easiest way would be to attack the walls which would make a fair bit of noise , as we are overlooked by a friend of the wife`s and the next door neighbour is always in there should be somebody who notices.

Do "beware of the dog " signs work ? i have even considered one of those on the outside of the gate .
 
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All is fine if the PIR is SEEN by a neighbour otherwise it's a waste of time. I find the [I think 3rd lock on the list] good I've used one for couple of years and it works fine. Can be annoying to anyone in the house if you forget to switch it off before getting the bike out though.The point is THEY don't know it's going off [and please don't say that wont do any good as the neighbours won't hear it - who actually pays much attention to an alarm ? certainly if it is a short few bleeps, which it will be before it is smashed on the floor of the shed as it will be if it is one of the cheap shed jobs. Besides will you REALLY hear it from outside if you're deep asleep ? Still you can always fit both - for the extra few quid it's maybe worth a go.
Do theives carry bolt croppers - Oh yes they do. Once your garage is identified as a target they will simply turn up with them - of course they don't just wonder around the streets - they know where they are going. No I am not talking skilled pro"s here [they will take anything whatever you do] just your average normally equiped tea leaf and his mate.
Fish hooks around the door handle !!?? You WILL forget !
As for the baseball bat Well the law permits reasonable force and note I did NOT [and for those who can't understand simple phrases I repeat DID NOT] say go out hitting people with it. The sight of you shouting and waving the thing about and banging it on the fence etc will be enough to frighten off most scumbags and if they attack you then you may defend yourself. Of course if you choose to stand up in court and say "I took a weapon out with me to kill the ba---rd" then you've had it. It used to be police advice LOOK scary - SOUND scary. Didn't think I'd have to explain that - ho hum.
Reference baseball bats leaving it by the door is a bit iffy? They may brake in. As stated you are on a "sticky wicket" by having a weapon to begin with. Now if you had a shotgun in the house and they were to break in and you were "scared shitless your honour" then you would get away with it. Remeber the gun safe but be in the house. I am simply saying you are on better ground if you had something that you normal have in your house ie like a hammer. I ran out with a hammer once. Now is it unreasonable to have hammer in the house? I think not furthermore it was all I had. It sounded like the burglar was knocking my wall down. As it happens it was cow rolled down the hill in heavy rain.
Firstly no house alarm, they are to likely to go off for no reason and would hate to annoy my neighbours. If I am away and the neighbour with my key was away?
Just a garage alarm. Not quite sure what you think of the burglar lock?
Next surely I would be able to hear an alarm on my garage even if i am partially deaf. Only one alarm has gone off in our street although that was in daytime everyone came out. Including one of the neighbours who had the keys and switched it of. I think I will have another wireless alarm from garage to house for when I am ratarsed. That should sort our your belief that I or my neighbours won't hear it.
 
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fossyant

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Any bike particularly valuable, or indeed valuable to you, make sure it's ground anchored. My thinking is they will take the others if tooled up enough.
 

ColinJ

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Any bike particularly valuable, or indeed valuable to you, make sure it's ground anchored. My thinking is they will take the others if tooled up enough.
Rhiannon Allport lost 6 bikes in one go and they were all ground anchored! :sad:

If the crooks are determined then they will get what they are after, but I agree - make it as hard as possible. I'll stick to keeping mine in the house, and have good insurance in case I get burgled.
 

Adam1965

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Up and over garage doors are very, very easy to force open so make it more secure by using dead bolts at the bottom, you would have to wreck the door to get it open thus causing a lot of noise, also you can have a sensor inside linked into you house alarm if you have one
 

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Rhiannon Allport lost 6 bikes in one go and they were all ground anchored! :sad:

If the crooks are determined then they will get what they are after, but I agree - make it as hard as possible. I'll stick to keeping mine in the house, and have good insurance in case I get burgled.

It states they were in an "outhouse".

Whatever that is.

As with anything of value, you decide what theft risk you are prepared to accept, be that unwittingly or not. I'll generally go with making stuff harder to steal than my neighbours.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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You just have to make it noisy as hell to get in. Up and overs, are easy to get into if you don't have additional locks, as most of the keys used are the same as office drawers. Useless. The shoot bolts can be bought for less than £30 and take max an hour to fit.
 

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You just have to make it noisy as hell to get in. Up and overs, are easy to get into if you don't have additional locks, as most of the keys used are the same as office drawers. Useless. The shoot bolts can be bought for less than £30 and take max an hour to fit.

Door bolts? Might have to get some, although we have a decent up and over lock (albeit as decent as they get).
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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It's the leverage they can get on the bottom of the door. My garage had as standard, an upper sprung shoot bolt and two lower hooks all connected to the door handle. The lock on the door handle can be defeated as the key is simple. I fitted a hasp for many years, then a neighbours got done, so I fitted an external Yale shoot bolt at the bottom. After the last attempt, the internal Asec bolts were fitted.
 
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