Pub demolition turns unexpectedly expensive!

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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I first read about this a few weeks back.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...evelopers-must-be-rebuilt-brick-by-brick.html

Presumably they thought they'd get away with it. Wonder how much it will cost to put it right.
How much does it cost to go bankrupt? About that much when it doesn't get rebuilt.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
How much does it cost to go bankrupt? About that much when it doesn't get rebuilt.
Yep, seen it plenty of times with listed buildings, the council orders renovations, the owner goes bust, the council are left with a plot of land with a damaged building that no one wants.
These people need stringing up.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Really? Sudden unexpected disappearance of funds, leading to no money. How do you rebuild ''without'' money?
They'll be prosecuted if they defy the order. Bankruptcy won't save them from that. The way this order has been used is quite clever, although being the first time it's been done in such a way leaves it open to legal challenge.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
They'll be prosecuted if they defy the order. Bankruptcy won't save them from that. The way this order has been used is quite clever, although being the first time it's been done in such a way leaves it open to legal challenge.
And the property vandals will have built this into their calculations. For poor bankrupts they will have surprisingly expensive lawyers. They will have made contingency plans.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
They'll be prosecuted if they defy the order. Bankruptcy won't save them from that. The way this order has been used is quite clever, although being the first time it's been done in such a way leaves it open to legal challenge.
Local council have granted planning permission to a bankrupt. Same person was also taken to court, by the same council, for money owed to them. Yet they still took all the planning fees only from him. He even turned up in public to put his side, if required.
 

discominer

Senior Member
Tesco did this in Glasgow a couple of years back, knocked down an old railway ticket office (on a Sunday I guess)...didn't even build their fecking shop.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Don't hold your breath folks. Issuing and order and obtaining compliance are two different things. The battle has barely started.

My brother was issued with a reinstatement order when his barn conversion 'evolved' into a demolition of everything but a gable end and the construction of a new abode attached to the gable end. He had a two and a half year legal battle, spent a lot of money in appeals, and finally won.


In don't think bankruptcy will be a defence for not complying with the order.

Bankruptcy certainly won't be a defence for not complying with the order but it will be a reason for the order not being complied with.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
And that's the chicken and egg. Don't comply and they could go to prison for their trouble, although if all their directors are in Tel Aviv that's more a theoretical risk.
 
I remember a while back a developer bought a derelict Manor house cheap that was listed which was sitting on millions of quids worth of land... nobody wanted it as the rebuilding would have been massive.... he flattened it in the middle of the night and all the council could do was fine him about a grand he then developed it (or sold it on.....) for massive profit when the furore was over.....

If any remembers this story better than me feel free to correct me/fill in the details.... Birmingham in the 80's I think.....
 
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