Question about average speed

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tiswas-steve

Über Member
How is it you drop below your ave speed by about 1-2 mph for about five mins, your ave speed drops straight away but you go 7-8 mph faster consistently for about ten minutes your ave speed stays the same ??
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Average speed can be lost or gained quite quickly early on in a ride but the more miles you're into the ride, the slower the loss/gain will be.
 

kiriyama

Senior Member
Best not to worry about it too much untill you have finished! Those numbers on your cycle computer can be very distracting and can mess your ride up psychologically. Try to concentrate more on improving your average power output and over time your average speed will increase.
 
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tiswas-steve

Über Member
Cheers for your replies guys. I agree about not being too fixated about numbers when riding, some of the best, relaxing rides are when you just enjoy being on your bike.
I was kinda pushing myself yesterday, over 35 miles I had a 15.9 mph average, so for the last couple of miles I was really going for the 16mph average speed but thanks to the wonderful 5 or so sets of traffic lights behind Bromley Shopping Centre all being on red, my fate was sealed. :stop:
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Sod's Law. It's the same reason that if you come to a junction then the one that goes uphill is the one you need to take.

You riding up Tweedy road through Bromley? If that's the one I don't blame you for wanting to get it out of the way quickly.
 
I really wouldn't worry about average speed during city riding. Too many variables (traffic/traffic lights/time of day/whether you can catch a cheeky tow from a double decker bus etc...). And there are more important things to worry about like getting to your destination safely!

You can't really compare average speeds unless your route involves minimal slowing down/stopping and little randomness. Hence why you see lots of amateur time trials on 70mph dual carriageways (insane and stupid imo).

If you want to improve your sustained power then try doing some intervals when the road/traffic conditions allow. Cycle at your normal steady pace and then cycle hard for about 30 seconds followed by 30 seconds at your steady pace and repeat as many times as you can.
 

mythste

Guru
Location
Manchester
The only time I worry about average speed is if I'm late for work! This morning both my alarm clock and heavy wind dropped me from 15mph average down to 12.3 and over 17 miles, meant I couldnt have my morning brew before I started.

Woe.
 

Karlt

Well-Known Member
Average speed can be lost or gained quite quickly early on in a ride but the more miles you're into the ride, the slower the loss/gain will be.

Not only that, but you need more fast riding - at least in distance - to make up for the slow to bring up the average. Consider a hill 2 miles long, one mile up, and one down. Further suppose that you can ride at 10mph up it and 30mph down it. You will take 6 minutes to go up and 2 to go down. Total 8 minutes. That's an average not of 20mph (half way between the uphill and downhill speeds) but rather 15mph (4 minutes per mile). The reason for this is of course that you spent three times as long at 10mph as you did at 30, even though you covered the same distance at both speeds. Indeed, since 20mph is 3 minutes per mile and therefore 6 for two miles, to make a 20mph average after going up at 10mph you'd need to travel infinitely fast downhill. It's quite hard to bring the average up because the fast sections, by definition, don't last very long ;)

It's very annoying. You can lose .2, .3 mph off the average crawling through a slow junction bit by bit and need to bust a gut for the next three miles to get it back!
 
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