Rob3rt
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And Giant used to make such nice looking bikes.....
When?

(With the exception of the Giant Trinity Advanced SL)
And Giant used to make such nice looking bikes.....
*Point of order* ...Nothing wrong with a sloping top tube as some old fogeys would have you believe.
When?
(With the exception of the Giant Trinity Advanced SL)
Have a look at the Planet X Kaffenback 2. (I've just bought one). BB7 discs, Tiagra chainset, Shimano wheels £849. Oh and it's made of steel.
I wish I hadn't read this post, it might turn out to be expensive. That bike just ticks all the boxes for what I "need" to go touringHave a look at the Planet X Kaffenback 2. (I've just bought one). BB7 discs, Tiagra chainset, Shimano wheels £849. Oh and it's made of steel.
I don't mind sloping top tubes but I just have an instant dislike where the top tube doesn't run into the seat stays.
I'm not sure if this affects a rack but it's been pointed out to me that because the rear brake caliper is outside the rear triangle it could be fiddly to fit a mudguard. As I say, not sure if that would affect a rack or not. I use raceblades and a Carradice for commuting so to me this was the perfect bike.I wish I hadn't read this post, it might turn out to be expensive. That bike just ticks all the boxes for what I "need" to go touring.
The bike comes complete, i.e. all the components can be assumed to be compatible. As such you buy a new cassette that is compatable and it is a straight swap, I have no idea how you are introducing any complexity to this!
I'm not sure if this affects a rack but it's been pointed out to me that because the rear brake caliper is outside the rear triangle it could be fiddly to fit a mudguard. As I say, not sure if that would affect a rack or not. I use raceblades and a Carradice for commuting so to me this was the perfect bike.
Thanks for that. If I get more serious about it, I will have to phone them to discuss its suitability for touring kit.I'm not sure if this affects a rack but it's been pointed out to me that because the rear brake caliper is outside the rear triangle it could be fiddly to fit a mudguard. As I say, not sure if that would affect a rack or not. I use raceblades and a Carradice for commuting so to me this was the perfect bike.
My Trek MTB (with Shimano hydraulic disc brakes) takes a standard Topeak Super Tourist rack, but it does involve some bodging and the use of a half inch spacer to get it to clear the caliper.You can get disc brake specific racks, but they stick out each side. F'ugly in other words.
My Trek MTB (with Shimano hydraulic disc brakes) takes a standard Topeak Super Tourist rack, but it does involve some bodging and the use of a half inch spacer to get it to clear the caliper.
Not really complexity. I wouldn't run an 11 speed cassette with a 10 speed chain, just for one example. But back on topic again. Has the OP thought about a Ti framed number? Not much (if at all) heavier than Carbon, and no annoying buzz. I like Titanium bikes a lot.
The disc brakes sway these bikes for me. i'm hearing that discs are the way forward. I'm wondering if i bought a rim brakes bike would i regret it in years to come when i see loads out with "superior disc brakes"? Decisions decisions!![]()