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Rear peddle reflectors and the law

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Bigtallfatbloke, 17 Sep 2007.

  1. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    Ok...no problem...but what about my dual sided spd pedals your honour?
     
  2. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    You don't need them if your cycling shoes have a retro-reflective patch.
     
  3. bonj2

    bonj2 Guest

    it's not a proper law anyway, only a theoretical one.
     
  4. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    It also depends on which time zone you are in.
     
  5. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Honky

    Location:
    North Somerset
    Legally you do.

    But if you want to attract a driver's attention by the up and down movement of a bit of reflective material, then shoes will do fine.
     
  6. barq

    barq Senior Member

    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    I think this came up in the CTC magazine a while back and Mister Paul is right. Assuming your bike is lit up like a Christmas tree, and you have the afore mentioned reflectives on your shoes, I think it would be a very pedantic policeman who stopped you. I'm not aware of this being used in an argument about contributory negligence but I could imagine an insurance company trying that angle.
     
  7. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    I dont think my shoes have reflectors on them though...maybe I should paint/stick something on them?
     
  8. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    Could you not attach pieces of the reflective "sticky tape" to your pedals ?
     
  9. wafflycat

    wafflycat New Member

    Location:
    middle of Norfolk
    If you can, yes, but that still doesn't meet the letter of the law, as there is a British Standard for the reflectors required, and reflective tape doesn't do it. Saying that, it's those darned BS reflectors that have always been the first things to drop off or break on any standard platform pedal I've ever used. Worse than useless.

    I stick on a pair of retro-reflective ankle bands & if I'm wearing Bikesters, they've got reflective stripes on the rear of the leg too (on top of all the other acres of reflectives on self & bike and the masses of lights). Technically not meeting the law, but in reality, a lot brighter and more durable than the 'legal' pedal reflector. One set of Look pedals I use does have some amber retroreflective tape on the rearward surface - the same type Plod uses on plodcars.

    Then there's the issue of recumbents - pedal reflectors are only seen by pilots of low-flying aircraft...

    As others have pointed out - it's highly unlikely that if you are well-lit and wearing reflectives that any plod is going to be ar$ed to do you if you haven't got pedal reflectors and are cycling at night. If you are, however, a stealth cyclist, you may be done. Plod can sometimes use a spot of common sense. Hard to believe, I know, but many of them do ;)

    p.s. pedant mode on. It's 'pedal' not 'peddle' unless, of course, you are a pedlar or peddler selling your wares...
     
  10. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    well the pedALS (;)) are not really suitable for the rear reflectors and I can't see a bit of tape lasting long on the actual pedle...erm...Pedal....however perhpas on the crank arm?

    I wonder why Shimano etc haven't thought of a way around this yet?

    I also have some hi vis reflective ankle bands which I will wear at night.
     
  11. mikeitup

    mikeitup Senior Member

    Location:
    Walsall
  12. pw2389

    pw2389 New Member

    I don't know but possibly it's only a legal requirement in this country, hence not worth their while in spending R & D money on the issue.
     
  13. barq

    barq Senior Member

    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    Yep, that's one Shimano solution which means the bike can leave the shop in legal condition. The bike manufacturer solution is to supply the bike without pedals.
     
  14. alecstilleyedye

    alecstilleyedye nothing in moderation Staff Member

    look used to do a pedal which was cleated one side and flat the other. both sides have a reflector (which are all still attached) and i will be using these in the winter.
     
  15. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

    what good is a side reflector?...rear reflectors are the important ones...and I think th elaw says rear reflectors...dunno.