Recycling the past -my new old 1970's commuter bike -very happy!

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Nigeyy

Legendary Member
Well, I commuted on my "new" old 1970's bike today -a Raleigh Super Course from 1976.

I bought it earlier this Summer for $220 in fairly original condition (though it had a newer wheelset and tyres, as well as a fairly new chain). At first riding it, I was overtaken with nostalgia -with a wistful sigh and glassy eyes I could fairly taste the heat of that Summer of 1976, hear those Bay City Rollers and feel my eyes glued to a TV the size of a small bungalow showing an episode of Starsky and Hutch. I really was back in the 1970's -I felt 6 stone lighter, and could swear I was running my fingers through a full head of luscious hair (when they weren't getting cramp from using a rotary dial phone.)

But, much like everything about nostalgia, after about 2 seconds everything came flooding back to me as to why these things that have been, have now passed: the Summer of 1976 was bloody hot and uncomfortable, and let's face it, the Bay City Rollers really haven't stood the test of time now have they? And if you've seen a re-run of Starsky and Hutch, you can barely contain your cynical sniggering and chuckling of the whole hokiness and over acting of the thing. Let alone the challenge of actually having to get up to walk to your tv set to change channels.....

No, after riding the thing for more than a few minutes, the thirst of nostalgia was quenched with a solid draught of 2011 ipecac syrup, leaving me with feelings of disappointment and frustration: why, oh why, did someone think it was an intuitive place to put shifters on the downtube? And what was this "friction" shifting thing? Was it a disco group that had a hit with the song "Cla-cla-cla-cla-duh-duh"? Why were 4 or 5 cogs missing on the 5 speed freewheel? And were the brakes broken? Why were my clenched hands hurting so much yet I wasn't slowing down? Good lord, I have to carry a spanner with me to remove the wheels too.....

Don't get me wrong -I think for those people who wish to cycle around on original bikes with original specs, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with being... being... nostalgic retro grouches. Bully for them! But it's not for me; I want to be comfortable riding a bike, be able to change gears effortlessly with a sunny smile on my face, and stop the bike when I pull back on a brake lever. So I decided to upgrade this bike:

  • first, to improve the centre pull brakes, I added Koolstop Salmon pads and modern shoes. An online store over here: $20
  • to get further improvement, I invested in some Cane Creek brake levers from Amazon. $30
  • changed out the bb, crankset and rear derailleur with an old -but relatively modern -Shimano crankset and rear derailleur I had in my spare parts drawer as well as the bb. I had to buy a rear derailleur hanger from Amazon for $10 since the frame did not have a hanger for a derailleur -it was old style).
  • traded a stem with someone at work for a handlebar that was wider than the original (is it just me, or have we grown to become more broad shouldered than those narrow pigeon chested youfs of the 70's? Or was it the style to have obscenely narrow bars?)
  • bought new 7 speed index downtube shifters from Amazon ($14)
  • bought Kelly Take Off shifter mounts that can put the shifters close at hand (off ebay $35).
  • bought a new 7 speed freewheel from Amazon ($11)
  • used some bar tape and cable and housing I had in my spare parts drawer.
total spent: $120, add in the cost of the bike originally, and I'm at $340, or about 220 quid -a bargain I reckon! I still have to get mudguards, but Rome wasn't built in a day. The result is astounding for me -I love this thing. It's a great commuting bike -very comfortable, and I love the fact the heart of the bike is a frame that was made close to where I grew up. Gear shifting for the 21 speeds is perfect, brakes work well too (centre pulls are still a PITA to work on though).

Even the seventies had some classic stuff.... yeah, great commute today... even the flares didn't get stuck in the chain :smile:

Pics:


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Just before the commute this morning:

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Friz

The more you ride, the less your ass will hurt.
Location
Ireland
I think that's the way to do it. I know the purists would be up in arms at the prospect but there have been alot of advances for a reason. One of these winters I plan on doing something similar. Taking and old frame and just dropping some modern componants on it....

Looks good. Enjoy.
 

HovR

Über Member
Location
Plymouth
What a coincidence! I took my 1980's-ish Dawes Echelon out for the first time today - Hadn't been ridden in 20 years.

Dragged it out of the shed it had been sitting in a few days ago, brought it home - And to my surprise.. The tubes held air! For all of 12 hours.

Anyway, a new set of inner tubes later, and I was out on the road! The brakes are working surprisingly well after only a little bit of adjusting, although I have to agree with you about the friction shift gears on the downtube - Can be a real pain when you are darting downhill on a busy country lane dodging potholes, whilst trying to change gear.

Although mine isn't quite as restored as yours yet. Still need new tape on the handlebars, new brake hoods, some new chrome bling for the rusted parts and all the bearings will need a good greasing!

And if I can ever find a paint similar or the same as the current/original colour, I may also repaint it!
 
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Nigeyy

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
Yes, I have to say -in my opinion at least -shifters don't belong anywhere where your hands normally aren't (and who cycles with their hands on the down tube?). This is my second pair of Kelly Take Offs, and I absolutely love them for road bars -they're not quite STI or Ergo, but come a very close second as well as enabling you to use older down tube shifters. Unfortunately for Kelly, I think his idea was just a few years too late; had he come up with those in the 70's or 80's he might have made a ton of money -they are so superior to the down tube positioning.

Lovely commute back home yesterday though, I'm definitely feeling like I have a soft spot for this bike.

What a coincidence! I took my 1980's-ish Dawes Echelon out for the first time today - Hadn't been ridden in 20 years.

Dragged it out of the shed it had been sitting in a few days ago, brought it home - And to my surprise.. The tubes held air! For all of 12 hours.

Anyway, a new set of inner tubes later, and I was out on the road! The brakes are working surprisingly well after only a little bit of adjusting, although I have to agree with you about the friction shift gears on the downtube - Can be a real pain when you are darting downhill on a busy country lane dodging potholes, whilst trying to change gear.

Although mine isn't quite as restored as yours yet. Still need new tape on the handlebars, new brake hoods, some new chrome bling for the rusted parts and all the bearings will need a good greasing!

And if I can ever find a paint similar or the same as the current/original colour, I may also repaint it!
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
carrying a spanner to take the wheels off ...

I once had a rear tube with 15+ repairs because I wasn't prepared to remove the wheel, I was very good at roadside repair in those days
 

HovR

Über Member
Location
Plymouth
Was very pleased today to overtake someone, who was riding a 2011 racer, at 25MPH on the flat with my old Dawes! Who says newer is necessarily better?
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Just looked up the Kelly Take Off's, and they seem great! Any idea where I may be able to get them in the UK? Ebay seems to wield no results. LBS maybe?

And regarding carrying a spanner for the wheels.. I have quick release front and back, as stock I believe.
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Edit to remove stupid mistake.
 
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Nigeyy

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
I don't think quality ever slows you down, does it? While I definitely think some of the older components offer less niceties (think friction shifting) or less performance (think some of the old brakes), they can still be beautiful bikes....

The Kelly Take Offs seem to be only available state side -though I think SJS Cycles may have carried them at one time. I only got into them when I bought a Dawes Sardar frame from the UK (had it shipped over) and I decided that not only did I like road handlebars, but that I also wanted to avoid the cost of STIs and Ergos as well. My search ended with the Kelly Take Offs (though I also considered Paul's Thumbies as well -but they were more expensive and took up too much space on the bars).

I'm now at the point where for touring and commuting, I'd use Take Offs anyday. -in fact, I prefer them for the simplicity and ruggedness (e.g. a dropped bike may screw up STI/Ergo, but with TakeOffs there's no way you'll be breaking those DT shifters unless your handlebar breaks -and then you've got other bigger problems!). I also like the fact they fit pretty much any DT shifter -so there's flexibility there. I could see for a road race they aren't quite as easy, but at my weight and thinning hair, I'm not exactly racing anyway. If you ever see any, I'd advise you to snap them up.

You could also try contacting Kelly Bike via email or phone, but last time I tried they never got back to me -so I don't know how reliable they are. When I saw them on Ebay I snapped them up.


Was very pleased today to overtake someone, who was riding a 2011 racer, at 25MPH on the flat with my old Dawes! Who says newer is necessarily better?
whistling.gif


Just looked up the Kelly Take Off's, and they seem like a great! Any idea where I may be able to get them in the UK? Ebay seems to wield no results. LBS maybe?

And regarding carrying a spanner for the wheels.. I have quick release front and back, as stock I believe.
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Location
Rammy
5 speed on the freewheel, you're lucky

i've got 4.5 speed on my freewheel 1968 Carlton Course de primes, original centre pull brakes (only any problems in heavy rain) and I love the down tube friction shifter.

Love it.

although I still have the solid steel cranks and chainring held on by cotter pins I've changed the pedals to spd's, fitted new guards and a rack.
got a QR rear wheel and a 5mm allen key front
although I never carry tools...
 

goo_mason

Champion barbed-wire hurdler
Location
Leith, Edinburgh
Never mind the lovely bike, the lovely house in winter shot - you also have a mint condition Gillette Fatboy! Lucky man :biggrin:

I've got two, plus two Slims, but none in as good nick as yours (and none of them were cased). Mind you, I tend to use my growing collection of straights more these days.

But I digress.....

Never seen shifter mounts like that before - great idea! How do you find using old-style ex-downtube shift levers up by the brakes?
 
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