icowden
Veteran
Again - astronomical? Really? It's gone from 9p per day (£34.99 for a year) to 12p per day (£44.99 for a year) for the basic paid plan. And you don't even have to have that - you can go free.
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Again - astronomical? Really? It's gone from 9p per day (£34.99 for a year) to 12p per day (£44.99 for a year) for the basic paid plan. And you don't even have to have that - you can go free.
Gunk
Guru
I’ve hard wired ours to the mains driven doorbell and the dreadful Ring doorbell noise is turned off.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
Yep, it is. Have a device with local storage, subscription cost £0
Device with storage on somebody else's computer subscription cost £45. Not to mention privacy concerns.
icowden
Veteran
Sorry, that's just wrong.
Device with storage on somebody else's computer subscription cost £0 but the data is only stored for 30 days.
Also, if the device only has local storage how is data made available to your portable device when you are out of the house? The privacy concerns remain the same - not that I have any about Ring given that Amazon is the one of the biggest cloud services providers in the world.
THought this would be about ringing doorbells then running away
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HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
Which part is wrong?
7 most infamous cloud security breaches.
https://www.arcserve.com/blog/7-most-infamous-cloud-security-breaches
eufy offer locally stored data on your home network. This provides almost infinitely less points of failure in security. Such as this one.
The SD card is stored on the white "chiming" device inside your house.
Save £45 a year... Be more secure...
MrGrumpy
Huge Member
Cheers , will keep n mind
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
BoldonLad
Not part of the Elite
I have one of those, but, paired with other cameras and all stored on a EUFY home base. Works fine
icowden
Veteran
The bit where you stated that storing on someone else's computer costs money. It doesn't. There is a free subscription tier.
But they also offer a subscription model which is required to access all features.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
It is my understanding that ring do not allow saving and later reviewing of videos without a subscription. Therefore no cloud.
Why on earth would you buy a device with half its features locked behind yet another pay wall? It's not my money I guess but it sounds absolutely bonkers.... by my reckoning you'll be affectively buying a new ring device every 2 years with a subscription whereby you could buy an alternative model which has a safer system to review your videos and storage and its one cost and you have it for as long as the devices useful life...
I wouldn't have one of these given, data gathering device for Amazon, no more, no less.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ring-doorbell-camera-amazon-privacy
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/ring-doorbell-camera-amazon-privacy
icowden
Veteran
They do. The free subscription service keeps videos for 30 days (in the cloud). Paid extends that to 180 days.
You have no choice. Eufy also keep many features locked behind a pay wall.
But you say that system is Eufy which operates the same model as Ring as far as I can see.
HMS_Dave
Grand Old Lady
I'm not getting this information, link to your source?
See below
They do indeed offer a subscription based cloud service. But it is NOT required to save videos and you can do this locally on an sd card as I've already described and so can retain full functionality.
icowden
Veteran
https://en-uk.ring.com/pages/copy-of-protect-plans
It's all here
I'm not sure it's full functionality without the subscription (e.g. alerts, motion detect alerts etc). It is difficult to find out though. Without the extra cost of a nomebase it keeps about 30 days on the internal memory just like Ring but not in the cloud.
Both Eufy and Ring have had security breaches. Many review sites favour Eufy over Ring however and their subscription is now cheaper than Rings.
