Rolling Resistance of tyres.

[User6179]

Can I just add Schwalbe marathon tour plus are nuclear bomb proof not just ordinary bomb proof , they also are heavier than the wheels they are attached to and are like riding through treacle in an earthquake .

 

[Yellow Saddle]

None of the axes are marked up for that. I do reckon that other posters were deliberately using 'bomb-proof' to see how long you could restrain yourself. Quite a while, it seems, but not forever.
No matter how fast or slow you go, there is no ride that can't be made more comfortable and enjoyable, by a pair of nice supple tyres. When able-bodied riders fit battleship tyres for not-particularly-challenging road surfaces, IMO it usually seems to be due to paranoia: either a mistaken belief that lighter tyres will puncture, or a fear that fixing a puncture is nigh-on impossible. The first is wrong, and the correct response to the second is to learn how to do the extremely basic task of fixing a flat, made much easier by fitting sensible tyres that a normal person can take off and put back on the rim!

Thanks for that explanation, but please tell me where bulletproof fits in the scheme of things. I've seen that mentioned here often as well. Perhaps these guys live in Aleppo.

And while you're at it, could you please explain to them that punctures are random and the fact that you once went down to the pub without a puncture proves nothing. Conversely, that when you get a puncture 300 meters from your gate, the tyres are not to blame.

TIA.

 

[nickyboy]

Thanks for that explanation, but please tell me where bulletproof fits in the scheme of things. I've seen that mentioned here often as well. Perhaps these guys live in Aleppo.

And while you're at it, could you please explain to them that punctures are random and the fact that you once went down to the pub without a puncture proves nothing. Conversely, that when you get a puncture 300 meters from your gate, the tyres are not to blame.

TIA.

Things trying to puncture your tyre are random occurrences but punctures themselves are not. Otherwise all tyres would have the same puncture resistance. The effect of the essentially random nature of riding over sharp things can be mitigated by tyre choice

 

[Shut Up Legs]

Can I just add Schwalbe marathon tour plus are nuclear bomb proof not just ordinary bomb proof , they also are heavier than the wheels they are attached to and are like riding through treacle in an earthquake .

No, that's just your opinion. I find them very easy to use.

 

[lutonloony]

Now I need a lie down. Had two punctures yesterday, first one slime sealed, second was instant death. My back tyre now has 2 pretty big cuts in, " Flint" type objects removed. First deflation in a year, so not seeing it as end of world, but now have no idea what to replace with. Mostly commuting/ Sunday club run, odd trundle on gravelly type cycle paths. Realise I will probably get as many options as answers, and apologies for high jacking thread

 

[Kajjal]

Thanks for that explanation, but please tell me where bulletproof fits in the scheme of things. I've seen that mentioned here often as well. Perhaps these guys live in Aleppo.

And while you're at it, could you please explain to them that punctures are random and the fact that you once went down to the pub without a puncture proves nothing. Conversely, that when you get a puncture 300 meters from your gate, the tyres are not to blame.

TIA.

Have you ever met marvin the robot from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy ?

Marvin: “I am at a rough estimate thirty billion times more intelligent than you. Let me give you an example. Think of a number, any number.”
Zem: “Er, five.”
Marvin: “Wrong. You see?”

 

[dim]

Now I need a lie down. Had two punctures yesterday, first one slime sealed, second was instant death. My back tyre now has 2 pretty big cuts in, " Flint" type objects removed. First deflation in a year, so not seeing it as end of world, but now have no idea what to replace with. Mostly commuting/ Sunday club run, odd trundle on gravelly type cycle paths. Realise I will probably get as many options as answers, and apologies for high jacking thread

do you have a road bike, mountain bike or hybrid?

 

[lutonloony]

do you have a road bike, mountain bike or hybrid?

Road, currently on continental grand tour 25s, came on the bike, seem to do the job, just thinking 2 cuts might be pushing my luck

 

[User6179]

No, that's just your opinion. I find them very easy to use.

If you are happy with them then stick with them , I only use them on the front of one of my winter bikes now , think it will last to about 10000 miles so good value but I don't think I would buy another one ,a Durano plus will replace it .

 

[dim]

Road, currently on continental grand tour 25s, came on the bike, seem to do the job, just thinking 2 cuts might be pushing my luck

if you need to get new tyres, get the Durano Plus for Winter (that's what I will be getting (the 25's) at the end of the month ....)

On my S-Works, I have Continental 4 seasons that came with the bike .... they have been good and served me well, but are worn now and need replacing, so it's Durano Plus

In summer next year, I will replace them with Continental Grand Prix 4000sII (unless something new and better is released by then). The Durano Plus will still have a lot of life left (hopefully), and I will store them for next winter

The last set of Durano Plus that I used had been ridden nearly 5000km and they still looked very good .... I sold that bike with the tyres and the new owner is still using the same tyres.

The Schwalbe site has given Durano Plus a puncture proof rating of 7 now (it used to be 6 which was the same as Marathon plus, so perhaps they have changed something, as the Marathon Plus also has a rating of 7):
https://www.schwalbe.com/gb/road-reader/durano-plus.html

 

[lutonloony]

if you need to get new tyres, get the Durano Plus for Winter (that's what I will be getting (the 25's) at the end of the month ....)

On my S-Works, I have Continental 4 seasons that came with the bike .... they have been good and served me well, but are worn now and need replacing, so it's Durano Plus

In summer next year, I will replace them with Continental Grand Prix 4000sII (unless something new and better is released by then). The Durano Plus will still have a lot of life left (hopefully), and I will store them for next winter

The last set of Durano Plus that I used had been ridden nearly 5000km and they still looked very good .... I sold that bike with the tyres and the new owner is still using the same tyres.

The Schwalbe site has given Durano Plus a puncture proof rating of 7 now (it used to be 6 which was the same as Marathon plus, so perhaps they have changed something, as the Marathon Plus also has a rating of 7):
https://www.schwalbe.com/gb/road-reader/durano-plus.html

Thanks for the words

 

[Ajax Bay]

On my S-Works, I have Continental 4 seasons that came with the bike .... they have been good and served me well, but are worn now and need replacing, so it's Durano Plus

I am genuinely interested: why replace the GP4Ss with a heavier tyre - the Durano + - which has a higher rolling resistance and only a little better puncture resistance. I suppose they're a bit cheaper. The GP4000SII is a good choice provided you're prepared to risk more punctures for a few extra watts, and pay for it. But wouldn't the Schwalbe One V-guard be a better choice?

 

[dim]

I am genuinely interested: why replace the GP4Ss with a heavier tyre - the Durano + - which has a higher rolling resistance and only a little better puncture resistance. I suppose they're a bit cheaper. The GP4000SII is a good choice provided you're prepared to risk more punctures for a few extra watts, and pay for it. But wouldn't the Schwalbe One V-guard be a better choice?

because I commute 7 days a week and average close to 200 miles per week. The Durano Plus are the best puncture resistance road tyres that I have ever used. I don't mind getting the odd puncture in summer, but hate changing a tube in Winter when it's dark, freezing cold and raining

I have not tried the One V-Guard yet. The GP4000SII roll fast and are my favourite tyre, but they do cut up fairly easily. Here is a recent photo of my back tyre on my Giant TCR .... This GP4000SII was 3 weeks old:

 

[lutonloony]

because I commute 7 days a week and average close to 200 miles per week. The Durano Plus are the best puncture resistance road tyres that I have ever used. I don't mind getting the odd puncture in summer, but hate changing a tube in Winter when it's dark, freezing cold and raining

I have not tried the One V-Guard yet. The GP4000SII roll fast and are my favourite tyre, but they do cut up fairly easily. Here is a recent photo of my back tyre on my Giant TCR .... This GP4000SII was 3 weeks old:

ouch!

 

[dim]

ouch!

LOL .... I went for a long ride and ended up having to pay £40 for a taxi to get me home. I had a spare inner tube and CO2 cannisters etc, but not a spare tyre