Saw a pedestrian get hit by bike today

[Little yellow Brompton]

There is no traffic to calm. Its restricted to buses and cyclists. Do you not accept that there will be no point using faster modes of transportation if it has to slow to pedestrian levels? I certainly dont think people should be allowed to tear around like lunatics,but there has to be balance.

I dont think it does work in other countries. We've been fed a dystopia, better planning would have been full pedestrianisation and rerouting all other traffic away. I'll admit I'm a little reluctant to go around the long way as it is both tight and full of large vehicles (buses, L and HGVs)

You seem to have an idea that "traffic" doesn't include buses, cyclsits or pedesrains! What you you think it consists of?

As for the other route, you don't like the other route because it's full of "large vehicles (buses, L and HGVs)" you don't like this route because it's full of pedestrains, might I suggest what you really want is a segregated cycle path, one that goes from your house to your destination?

 

[400bhp]

No it isn't. A bell is an instrument, and can be played like any other, with feeling.

Yeah, right. I've heard similar stories from car drivers with the horn.

How the feck is someone supposed to interpret a friendly ring.

 

[Moodyman]

Yeah, right. I've heard similar stories from car drivers with the horn.

How the feck is someone supposed to interpret a friendly ring.

When you do it with a smile and a cheery hello

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If you ting ting with your head down and power ahead, you could be mistaken for a twit.

 

[Arch]

Yeah, right. I've heard similar stories from car drivers with the horn.

How the feck is someone supposed to interpret a friendly ring.

Well, since the bell in question was I think a proper 'bring bring' bell, I'd say a light 'bring!' would be friendly, whereas a constant 'bringbringbringbringbring' would clearly be impatient.

 

[downfader]

You seem to have an idea that "traffic" doesn't include buses, cyclsits or pedesrains! What you you think it consists of?

As for the other route, you don't like the other route because it's full of "large vehicles (buses, L and HGVs)" you don't like this route because it's full of pedestrains, might I suggest what you really want is a segregated cycle path, one that goes from your house to your destination?

You're putting words in my mouth.

Perhaps you like coming on internet forums and making facetious comment..?

 

[boydj]

....... no good for others wishing to press on.

Isn't that the point?

 

[chris grace]

I find one ding at about 10 yards away works quite well,if it doesn't then I slow down and ding again a bit closer and keep doing so until I can pass.When I ding I give time for a reaction before dinging again.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

You're putting words in my mouth.

Sigh!!! :-(

Want to have another crack at explaining why you don't like the route that has "traffic" and you have trouble with the route with buses , cycles and pedestrains>

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

Isn't that the point?

I thought so.

 

[Boris Bike]

Before I started cycling I saw a horrific crash between a cyclist and a pedestrian, and I'd say they were both at fault.

It happened at a pedestrian crossing in Central London - just outside Cannon Street station. The lights were green for the traffic, but the road was packed so no cars were moving. One pedestrian waiting at the crossing decided he'd walk through the standing traffic.

At the same time a cyclist with a nice bit of space between the stationary traffic and the curb saw it as a great time to demonstrate how good it was being on a cycle in a traffic jam and was speeding along the inside past all the traffic.

Pedestrian steps out from in front of a stationary just at the time the cyclist gets up to full speed between the bus and the curb. Both end up on the floor. Lots of swearing.

Both were in the wrong here - pedestrian for not appreciating cyclists might still be coming through (as the traffic lights were still green); and the cyclist for not being aware pedestrians would be doing this (especially as he was undertaking a stationary bus and had no view through to the pedestrian in front of the bus).

Taught be to be very aware in those situations, as both a pedestrian and a cyclist.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Well, since the bell in question was I think a proper 'bring bring' bell, I'd say a light 'bring!' would be friendly, whereas a constant 'bringbringbringbringbring' would clearly be impatient.

Precisely.

bring-bring is the least it does though you can vary the length of the - by keeping your thumb on the lever. You can vary the intensity of brings by how fast you push and release the lever.

 

[jonny jeez]

"Bicycle coming through!" is what I will sometimes say out loud, usually with a "passing on your left/right!"

I personally think that's too much information, most foreign speaking tourists would just be confused by a cyclist saying more than a word or two. The majority of pedestrians I find stepping into in the roads around London are those that are not local, not used to traffic coming from a different direction (especially silent traffic) or are distracted by am MP3 player.

Wohaaa! works for me and doesn’t seem to suffer any loss in translation, whilst achieving a good impact that can be heard above an average MP3