Scowled at by cyclist

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Vantage

Carbon fibre... LMAO!!!
The clutch might not be the problem. Some cars just don't like some hills. My fiancée's Picasso really hates hills.
As for the cyclist? There's a fair chance he was just another pillock. There's just as many riding bikes as there are driving cars or walking along.
To the op, you're a gentleman/lady* and I wish there were more like you.

*No idea if you're male or female :smile:
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I got horns sounded at me twice on Sunday for perfectly legally riding 2 abreast I gave both a cheery wave as they went by. They can't help being idiots. I both cases by the way they were driving massive 4x4s which looked as if they had never touched the dirt lol.

There was a bloke down the pub Saturday night. "Don't get me wrong i don't hate cyclists but they piss me off getting in my way when i'm trying to get to work, he said! Er have you thought that they might be trying to get to work too said i. Yeah but they're still in my way said the tool!:rolleyes: Bikes aren't a form of transport to these dweebs, just something they hope gets in their way so they can have a bloody good moan!
 

Vantage

Carbon fibre... LMAO!!!
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Bloody cyclists...holding up traffic, all over the road. They're a menace. :wacko:
 

rugby bloke

Veteran
Location
Northamptonshire
I usually try to acknowledge courteous driving by motorists, but when it's at the top of a climb I don't have the strength to take my hand off the handle bars, let alone give a cheery wave !
I also sometimes find myself thinking "For pity sake, just bloody over take !!" when a motorist is hanging back and waiting for the correct time. So it probably depends on the cyclist's state of mind at the exact time you come across him.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
Sadly the number of cyclists who either nod , smile or wave any thanks is, in my experience virtually zero [as opposed to drivers, m/cyclists or even horse riders]
As above he may just have been cream crackered but if you're expecting any appreciation - forget it.
I think thanks is appropriate when you're being genuinely considerate (allowing someone out of a side road when you have priority, for example).

For simply not putting yourself/someone else in danger, I think that it's questionable. Thanking people for exercising what *should* be the minimum standard of driving/cycling/walking always seems a bit weird to me, although I have done it myself at times.

"Thanks for not killing me!"

"Thanks for not piling your car into oncoming traffic due to your baffling impatience!"

One other point is that even considerate motorists are often quite far removed from recent experience on a bike, and their actions are taken from a "car" point of view as a result (one can be quite sanguine about distance and speed when surrounded by a lot of protective metal). Mrs M and I had a discussion on this recently when she was driving - she followed (imo) too close to a couple of riders we encountered before making a (safe) overtake. In the cyclists' shoes, I'd have viewed following so closely as a "hurry up" from the driver, and not been happy (as well as worrying that it meant a loony overtake was coming). If the OP had left less than, say, a car length or two, that's a possible reason for the scowl as well.

Incidentally, around here, horse riders tend to be pretty haughty types, and you're as likely to see an Audi driver using indicators[1] are you are to get an acknowledgement from our equestrian road users.

[1] Using them as hazard lights while parked illegally excepted.
 
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I've followed a cyclist when I was driving up some winding hills in Surrey. I could tell by the increasingly anxious looks he was giving me over his shoulder that he didn't like me hanging there and would have been happier with me passing him. I couldn't give him adequate passing distance without crossing the centre line, and I could not see far enough ahead to do so safely, so I waited until it was safe to pass him. I'm sorry that my driving made him feel vulnerable (or whatever) but that wasn't going to make me change my priority away from safety.
 
Incidentally, around here, horse riders tend to be pretty haughty types, and you're as likely to see an Audi driver using indicators[1] are you are to get an acknowledgement from our equestrian road users.
Weird. My habit is to say in a clear voice as I approach "Cyclist" - thus letting the rider know precisely what is coming, and the horse to understand that the thing approaching is a human (and not some tentacled terror from the deep, or whatever it is that makes horses freak out.) I've never had a rider not respond with a cheerful "thanks" or "nice day" or whatever.

(I'd still do it, even if they weren't nice, 'cause I don't want to get kicked in the head)
 
I've followed a cyclist when I was driving up some winding hills in Surrey. I could tell by the increasingly anxious looks he was giving me over his shoulder that he didn't like me hanging there and would have been happier with me passing him. I couldn't give him adequate passing distance without crossing the centre line, and I could not see far enough ahead to do so safely, so I waited until it was safe to pass him. I'm sorry that my driving made him feel vulnerable (or whatever) but that wasn't going to make me change my priority away from safety.
Interestingly, I've occasionally come across a driver who doesn't seem to want to go past. For the sake of peace I tend to slow and move over at an appropriate point in order that I don't have to wonder how long they're going to be there. Of course it's far more common to think, I wouldn't overtake here if I were you...or for them to go past so close you could sign your name on the side of the car.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
I couldn't give him adequate passing distance without crossing the centre line, and I could not see far enough ahead to do so safely, so I waited until it was safe to pass him. I'm sorry that my driving made him feel vulnerable (or whatever) but that wasn't going to make me change my priority away from safety.
Good on you, and I'd have done the same. At least if you hang back a decent distance, the rider doesn't have to worry that you don't have stopping distance, and hopefully worries slightly less about an imminent unsafe overtake.

I've been in the same situation, and certainly in the UK, my worry is twofold (as a cyclist); firstly that the driver will lose patience and overtake unsafely anyway, and secondly, that the people following him/her will drive like loons once the considerately driven vehicle moves[1].
(I'd still do it, even if they weren't nice, 'cause I don't want to get kicked in the head)
Exactly! "Bike behind you!" followed by "I'm passing on your right" once it's safe to.

[1] I've seen this a fair bit - the following drivers feel a need to "punish" you for making the considerate driver hold them up. It has an odd counterpart in the way people drive locally after getting out of the daily traffic jams on Crewe Road - they hoon up the far quieter Crewe Green road as though the devil himself were chasing them out of the jam.
 
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