Self-assembley of Black Brompton wheel set advice

[snazpizaz]

Hi

Seeking some basic advice about pros/cons - ease/issues of building/assembling my own black Brompton wheel set.

I've been quoted by a wheel builder:
1) Black wheels from scratch with a BWR hub. c.£560.
3) Brompton pre-made black wheels convert other parts to all black c.£500-600.

But i'm wondering if i can get that price down by assembling the wheel parts myself.

I was linked to these parts in a previous post:
Black rims:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/rims-ta...our-narrow-aluminium-rim-matte-black-28-hole/
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/rims-ta...lour-wider-aluminium-rim-matte-black-28-hole/
Half Black rims and spokes:
https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/84-brompton-rims-spokes#/colour_-black/front_rear-both-front-rear

So a couple of specific questions:

1. Do i need a 'wheel building jig' or can i do it without as these 2 youtube video guys seem to show:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBVUiAeLmQ

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-RKN4clIGs


2. How do i know what size spokes to get ? My wheel set includes a BWR 6 speed rear wheel
https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/84-brompton-rims-spokes#/colour_-black/front_rear-both-front-rear
Do Brompton wheels use stright gauge, double butted or single butted spokes ?

3. Is there a specific type of nipple should i use ? I want them in black also which i think seem widely available ?

4. What size inside tape do i need to buy ?

Is there anything else people can think of ?

Much appreciated..

sp

 

[tinywheels]

interesting, why bother, it's possible to get a nice pair of wheels built for a very reasonable price.
try team strada in worthing, they build some excellent wheels.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

It’ll be plain gauge spokes for 16” wheels. You need hub and rim dimensions then you can calculate the length spokes you need by using the online spoke calculators. Front is radial lacing , rear will be 1X or 2x lacing.

 

[Cycleops]

Sell it and get one with black wheels.

 

[tinywheels]

strada offer a wheel set for 299.00 why waste your time? unless you are seriously strapped. if that were so, you can't afford this upgrade so stick with silver.

 

[rogerzilla]

It’ll be plain gauge spokes for 16” wheels. You need hub and rim dimensions then you can calculate the length spokes you need by using the online spoke calculators. Front is radial lacing , rear will be 1X or 2x lacing.

Brompton have used d/b spokes from time to time.

 

[snazpizaz]

Thanks for the advice to date folks

1. I will approach Strada for a quote if it's as low as £299 - wondering where that price came from tho - can you link me ?

For self build route:
1. Does anyone know off-hand the spoke size for the rear wheel with a Sturmley Archer BWR 3/6 gear hub ?
2. Does anyone know off-hand the spoke size for the front wheel with a generic non dynamo spindle OR with a generic dynamo spindle ?
3. Are the nipples used on a Brompton wheel set a certain type ?

cheers folks
sp