Self-Build Cyclocross Suggestions?

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Hi all,

I've decided that I want to build myself a cyclocross style bike.

I realise that purchasing all the components separately is not always the most economical way. However, my interest in this project are not just to try the cheapest route to another set of wheels. I really want to do it because I get as much enjoyment form tinkering and building as I do from riding, I like to know that what's under me is a little unique (and perhaps a little off the wall rather than off the peg) and I'd like to learn more about bike building. I also want the "I made that" feeling.

My reason for the cyclocross style is that I'm after an all rounder. I'll be using it for some pleasure riding and probably some winter commuting on roads and paved paths, but mainly for chasing Duke of Edinburgh students on footpaths and bridleways. My plan is simply to swap tyres depending on activity - 27(ish) slicks for the roads and 37(ish) nobblies for the rougher stuff. I've tried a Genesis Tour de F for this and it was a pretty good starting point, but I felt it was way too heavy and a long wheelbase suited me better on long cruises on the open road rather than for short bursts on footpaths. I also found the gear shifters on the handlebar ends a real fiddle!

As for the components I'm thinking a carbon frame and forks (internal cables), disc brakes (ideally hydraulic), 16 or 18 gears with 46/36 up front and 11 to ??? on the rear. Gear shifters I'd go for whatever my budget can stretch to. Likewise with wheels and other components.

My budget will probably be about £1500. Of this I'm thinking £400-£600 for a frame (either cheap, unbranded generic or better quality secondhand) and then get the rest as good a quality I can afford. I think I'd rather go for a cheaper frame and blow most of my budget on brakes, gears and wheels so I can swap them up onto my Genesis if I don't get on with a carbon frame or if me needs change. I'm in no real rush to build - I intend to research and build over the summer, and have it road ready for September. Or there abouts.

Any suggestions as to a good starting frame and general advice on how to proceed?

J
 

jazzkat

Fixed wheel fanatic.
I built up a surly crosscheck frame as a winter bike. It rides beautifully being steel but it's not a lightweight. The thread of my build is here.
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/building-my-surly.162280/
It came in around your budget but I could have done it cheaper by buying cheaper bits or second hand.
It's definitely fun to build your own.
 
If you want something truly unique and made in england try this guy http://www.elitebikes.eu/ He started off making cross bikes for his daughter then for other female racers. His bikes are decent and you can have any colur design you like. Also the frame is custom made so should fit like a glove. He advertises complete bikes but I am sure he could do you just a frame. I know some of the people who left the reiews on his site and are in his site pictures, they were very happy with them. ( I don't have one but my next road bike will probably come from him as I am a wierd sizing being small but with a long femur meaning I need a small bike but with the seat well back to the stops, he can make me a frame to suit, my only problem will be which colour to have)
 
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Citius

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If you want something truly unique and made in england try this guy http://www.elitebikes.eu/ He started off making cross bikes for his daughter then for other female racers. His bikes are decent and you can have any colur design you like. Also the frame is custom made so should fit like a glove. He advertises complete bikes but I am sure he could do you just a frame. I know some of the people who left the reiews on his site and are in his site pictures, they were very happy with them. ( I don't have one but my next road bike will probably come from him as I am a wierd sizing being small but with a long femur meaning I need a small bike but with the seat well back to the stops, he can make me a frame to suit, my only problem will be which colour to have)

Those look like open-mould Chinese frames, so unlikely to be custom. Paul Milnes usually has some good deals on CX frames - worth a look at his website.
 
@Citius When I spoke to him a couple of years ago ( was after a track bike for my daughter) he was making them himself in the uk. He may have given into financial pressures and gone down the Chineese road but I doubt it. I have tried contacting him again to confirm but no reply so far.
 
@Citius , He just got back to me, Indeed they are made in China now, he however specifies the design and tube sizes and angles so they are "custom" ie each one is different. The paint job is done in the UK though.
 
Got my Planet X XLS frame from their eghey store for £350 and just about got it built under a grand using a mix of new and s/h parts;while I enjoyed building it in retrospect I'd probably been better just buying a complete bike.
 
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JimboJames1972

Active Member
Wow! Thanks for so much useful info, people. Greatly appreciated!

I like the apparent convenience of the Kinesis gear and brake sets and their obvious compatibility with their frames. Any idea how their quality compares to the set I already have on my Genesis (Shimano Alivio 4000 gears etc...). The green is certainly pretty funky, shame it's not carbon though.

Tincaman, that was the frame I was looking at. How did your ride go once it was built up?

I'll certainly give elitebikes a call, and have Planet X on standby if I need a complete bike setup.

Thanks to all once again. If anyone has any suggestions, please contribute.

J
 

vickster

Squire
Review of the kinesis

http://road.cc/content/review/143951-kinesis-crosslight-pro-6-frameset

If you want carbon how about...

http://www.pearsoncycles.co.uk/pearson-i-ve-started-so-i-ll-finish.html

I'm guessing pearson will sell you the frame...or build it to whatever spec you want...bit over budget though

Dunno if you spotted this already if wanting a carbon frame, nearly half price http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROOCXD/on-one-dirty-disco-cyclocross-frameset

Look at Ridley too, the Belgian daddy of CX
 

Breedon

Legendary Member
The sense of satisfaction in building your own bike is fantastic built my own about 2 months ago based on a planet x RT-58 frame with used sram red that was from eBay which saved me a fortune.

Brought carbon wheels from China.
It does cost more building it your self but if you shop around you can save money.

Good place is planet x for parts cheep and light more than likely China made, but the bike you build will be exactly how you want it without any upgrades in a few years time.

Currently thinking of building a cyclocross carbon from scratch.
 
Wow! Thanks for so much useful info, people. Greatly appreciated!

I like the apparent convenience of the Kinesis gear and brake sets and their obvious compatibility with their frames. Any idea how their quality compares to the set I already have on my Genesis (Shimano Alivio 4000 gears etc...). The green is certainly pretty funky, shame it's not carbon though.

Tincaman, that was the frame I was looking at. How did your ride go once it was built up?

I'll certainly give elitebikes a call, and have Planet X on standby if I need a complete bike setup.

Thanks to all once again. If anyone has any suggestions, please contribute.

J
Here is my original thread on the frame
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/m...upgraded-to-a-chinese-carbon-cx-frame.152360/

2500 further on and no problems. I have a range of different tyres from 28 to 40mm depending on what I want to do.
It's very stiff and the ride can be harsh on smaller tyres, but stick to 28 and above and its fine
 
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