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Harbour authorities are now calling themselves VTS
Vessel Traffic Services.
Think they all fancy themselves as some sort of air traffic control but at sea level. Apart from that guy that landed the passenger plane on the Hudson where there was a crossover of transport types
 
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Piemaster said:
Think they all fancy themselves as some sort of air traffic control but at sea level. Apart from that guy that landed the passenger plane on the Hudson where there was a crossover of transport types

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Auntie Helen said:
Clearly not, with some of your comments about sailing boats not crossing the atlantic. I can't tell you how many different people I know who've done that, often multiple times. Including the former owner of our boat.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, or that it hasn't ever been done, but that it's not normal - it isn't USUALLY done. Why are people incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white
 
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bonj said:
I think this story is beginning to smell slightly of bollocks, because i suspect that if any small boat had managed to make it across the atlantic then it wouldn't be allowed to just pull up in a harbour, it would have been rounded up by the coastguard and shepherded into an official port of entry.

That sounds pretty unbelieving to me...
 

Auntie Helen

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bonj said:
I'm not saying it isn't possible, or that it hasn't ever been done, but that it's not normal - it isn't USUALLY done. Why are people incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white
What do you class as 'usually'? No, the average joe public in the street doesn't do it, but amongst the sailing fraternity it's something that many people do. I know eight or nine people who've done Transats. It's not particularly unusual amongst sailors.

It's you who seems incapable of seeing that this isn't a black and white thing 'no sailing boats cross the atlantic and therefore the shipping forecast is pointless'. Some sailing boats DO cross the atlantic and they find the shipping forecast extremely useful. I have no desire to do a transat but I love listening to the forecast anyway, there's something wonderfully rhythmic about the words and exotic about the locations listed...
 
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Auntie Helen said:
I love listening to the forecast anyway, there's something wonderfully rhythmic about the words and exotic about the locations listed...

Bonj will be along in a minute to tell us that all the place names are made up anyway...
 
Auntie Helen said:
It's you who seems incapable of seeing that this isn't a black and white thing 'no sailing boats cross the atlantic and therefore the shipping forecast is pointless'. Some sailing boats DO cross the atlantic and they find the shipping forecast extremely useful. I have no desire to do a transat but I love listening to the forecast anyway, there's something wonderfully rhythmic about the words and exotic about the locations listed...

I'd agree with most of the above with one point, sailing boats do cross the Atlantic (and circumnavigate the globe come to it) and the shipping forecast is useful- BUT only to those sailing in the coastal regions or nipping over to Europe as it only covers the UK coastal regions
 
rich p said:
No Wear, nowhere! It's worn out!
My whole life is shattered, it's based on a false premise.

It's not exactly difficult to understand though, is it? Even for www.bonjknowsitall.co.ck:twisted:

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Auntie Helen said:
What do you class as 'usually'? No, the average joe public in the street doesn't do it, but amongst the sailing fraternity it's something that many people do. I know eight or nine people who've done Transats. It's not particularly unusual amongst sailors.

It's you who seems incapable of seeing that this isn't a black and white thing 'no sailing boats cross the atlantic and therefore the shipping forecast is pointless'. Some sailing boats DO cross the atlantic and they find the shipping forecast extremely useful. I have no desire to do a transat but I love listening to the forecast anyway, there's something wonderfully rhythmic about the words and exotic about the locations listed...

;) LOOK:
*MOST sailing boats don't cross the atlantic
*but SOME do

*small sailing boats aren't normally referred to as SHIPS
*a ship is generally taken to mean a large, propellor driven cargo vessel
*but if you're being VERY pedantic, which you are, then the strict definition of a 'ship' includes sailing boats, but not in common parlance

*the shipping forecast is therefore not useful to small boats as they don't NORMALLY* cross the atlantic (*but since you seem to be very defensive in taking this to mean they never do, I'll re-stress AGAIN the caveat that this doesn't mean they never do, or can't)
*it isn't really useful to container ships as the only reason a storm is going to affect them is if they get delayed to a strong headwind, and as piemaster says in pretty much the only valid point apart from me in this thread, this costs money. But, isn't that good a point since the ship can simply evaluate its current speed at any given time and increase it as necessary. I suppose the shipping forecast may therefore be useful in terms of predicting how much fuel to take on board, but that's effectively its only MAINSTREAM use (which before you get all uppity is a different thing from saying 'its ONLY use'
 
Thank you everyone, this thread enabled me to spend several minutes of my life with a merry grin on my face. Congratulations to all involved, especially Bonj. ;)



Oh and Arch, if you were any more English we'd have to keep you in a case with a sign saying 'in case of rationing, break glass' or something. Well done that woman! :tongue:
 
bonj said:
*the shipping forecast is therefore not useful to small boats as they don't NORMALLY* cross the atlantic (*but since you seem to be very defensive in taking this to mean they never do, I'll re-stress AGAIN the caveat that this doesn't mean they never do, or can't)

The shipping forecast is surely more useful to sailboats that are NOT crossing the Atlantic as it only gives a forecast for coastal areas. Not much use when you are in the Azores.

It's probably not used much by commercial vessels either as they will get a focused forecast for their route/area from the likes of Ocean Routes. Forecasts sent to my ship predict wind speeds and wave heights at 6 hour intervals for 3 days in advance. Alternatively do what everyone else does, put the TV on and look at the pretty isobars.:ohmy:
Forecast may be used by the fishing industry and small coastal vessels, but I suspect its becoming increasingly irrelevant as technology advances. Probably more people laying in their beds at home listening than on vessels now.
 
This thread is doing wonders for my post count.

I also have a vision of Bonj sat hunched over a keyboard flipping between browser tabs with this thread in one and the 'horses' one in commuting on the other
 
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