Should being fat be socially unacceptable

[tyred]

Grapes and carrots are full of sugar, and not wishing to burden the NHS because of diabetes, I need to eat something else. Any suggestions?

Cardboard?

 

[User482]

Cardboard?

Simple carbohydrates in the starch, I'm afraid. I've gone for a cheese and pickle sandwich, and a pork pie. I'm expecting handcuffs from the food police any moment.

 

[swampyseifer]

I love this idea that fatties are going to 100% guaranteed to take more time off work...Used to work for someone who was stick-thin and he was always off sick. I also used to work with a guy who was overweight and drank like a fish every weekend, he was almost never off work.

Wear glasses? who cares? have a particular religeon? So what? English isnt your first language? so long as i can understand you I'm not bothered.

but be fat and society treats you differently. stares, school kids laughing at you, people avoid sitting next to you on public transport etc...and its an odd tangent, but comedy. I'm sure that the only politically right thing left that you can use about someone to take the micky out of them is weight.

If a comedian said about how he met an <insert ethnic> and they stank of <insert ethnic food type>...he'd be booed off stage. if the same comedian said he met a fat guy and he stank of chipfat and barbecue beef crisps...people would laugh out loud

 

[Ashtrayhead]

Simple carbohydrates in the starch, I'm afraid. I've gone for a cheese and pickle sandwich, and a pork pie. I'm expecting handcuffs from the food police any moment.

 

[yumpy]

I'm not sure people laugh about fat people any more - its not really funny.

On the other hand, as some comedian once said: you're always safe making a joke about ugly people. I mean, who is going to stand up in the audience and say "Hey, I'm ugly and I object to that joke".

 

[Rapples]

Not many calories in dust...

I don't know, you'd be surprised. It all depends what planet you live on

http://www.aquarterof.co.uk/space-dust-strawberry-p-355.html

 

[smutchin]

Simple carbohydrates in the starch, I'm afraid. I've gone for a cheese and pickle sandwich, and a pork pie. I'm expecting handcuffs from the food police any moment.

I had two pints of Pride and a chicken burrito from Tortilla. Carbtastic! But then I'm planning to ride the long way home tonight. <insert smug git smiley here>

d.

 

[jonny jeez]

In short; I want to be able to do things and stuff the obesity is preventing me from doing. And that motivation is strong.

I suspect that you are well on the way to success..all the best.

I find (if it helps at all) that the more i do something and the more I "get into it", the easier it becomes to make positive choices that surround that activity.

Cycling is like that for me. At first I have to make an effort, then once I'm "in the zone" the decision to make an effort disappears and suddenly I'm watching what I eat, stretching, getting plenty of sleep and a ton of other small things that i always find it hard to otherwise do.

Oddly I also find my presence on this site is directly proportional to the amount of riding I do. If I'm not on the road...I'm not on here.

Things seem to slot into place when you get motoring

 

[MontyVeda]

Well, it *is* actually your business if you're a taxpayer, because the NHS picks up a massive tab from obesity.

and what about all those healthy bastards who are going to live till they're 100? How much will they cost you (the fecking self righteous tax payer) in state pensions? How much will they cost the NHS and ultimately you (the fecking self righteous tax payer) towards the end of their life which they've selfishly dragged out far too long? Oh, and not to mention all those subsidies pensioners get to help with their winter heating bills, plus a free TV licence... who pays for all that? You (the fecking self righteous tax payer).

I've said it before and i'll say it again...

we have it so good in Blighty it amazes me how low people will stoop to have moan.

 

[toroddf]

My girlfriend has put a "never mind the polar beer, beware of it's owner" sign outside my door now after I have gone on a diet. I am eating less than 2600 calories a day now.

The NHS costs due to obesity is huge. Let's not kid ourselves by pretending it is a minor matter. It is not. It is a cost we will have problems funding in the not so distant future. Hence NHS's drive to do something about it. That and the general good health and well-being in UK.

I am not sure if anyone of you have spotted the recent let loose the kids in the nature campaign. Eat my haggis, but it seems like today's kids no longer play and have fun in the forests and in the wild. Playstations has taken over. In my youth...... yes, I know I sounds like a tired old cliche....... but in my youth, we did climb in the trees and we did run around in the forest. And I got the bumps, cuts and bruises to go along with it. The announcement of this new campaign made me cry blood in despair and to put more money into my private pension fund. Who else is going to pay for my rocking chair and care in a retirement home than this pension fund ? I despair.

 

[smutchin]

it seems like today's kids no longer play and have fun in the forests and in the wild. Playstations has taken over.

But the forests are full of paedophiles! Or is it squirrels? I can never tell the difference.

Srsly, I agree with you. It seems the norm today for kids to have a telly in their room. Not my son. Nor does he have a PlayStation.

I'm sure he'll thank me for it one day.

He doesn't seem to miss these luxuries though. He's completely mental about rugby and spends most of his free time either practising, playing, watching or reading about rugby. I like to think this means I'm doing something right as a parent.

(Actually, I'd love to get a PlayStation myself but I'd need to justify the expense to my wife... She hasn't swallowed the "but it's also a Blu-ray player" line yet.)

d.

 

[Norm]

Whenever this subject comes up, I ponder on whether it is size or fitness which is important.

It was raised, and largely ignored, earlier but which features higher in the list of Lebensunwertes Leben, the 20 stone cyclist, the 16 stone drinker or the 12 stone geek?

 

[Browser]

And tall people are more likely to get them. Not much to be done about that, eh?

Why the bloody hell have I been unsuccessful at the two job interviews I've had recently then (I'm 6ft 5in tall), answer me that?!?!?! Maybe my Stig Of The Dump-a-like shortarse brummie work colleague Pete is right when he says "tall is not a talent".
Returning to the OP, tricky one. I am usually harsh in my judgement of the overweight, which is hypocritical as according to BMI charts I am oveweight at 15 st 5lbs. I tend to get vexed at people who say they 'can't' lose weight and have 'tried all sorts'. Usually, people gain weight through eating more calories than they need/use and the diets don't work because they chose a daft plan (Slimfast/Atkins/cabbage water) or worst of all they lie to themselves about how much they eat.
It's a complex subject with complex answers, but we are storing up trouble for the future by not tackling it while we have the chance.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

It was raised, and largely ignored, earlier

hey, me too, must be a generation thing?

Whenever this subject comes up, I ponder on whether it is size or fitness which is important.
but which features higher in the list of Lebensunwertes Leben, the 20 stone cyclist, the 16 stone drinker or the 12 stone geek?

I would say gimme the 20 stone cyclist any day, big fit guys and gals are essential for procreation of the species, and generally more fun to be with too.

 

[swee'pea99]

and what about all those healthy bastards who are going to live till they're 100? How much will they cost you (the fecking self righteous tax payer) in state pensions? How much will they cost the NHS and ultimately you (the fecking self righteous tax payer) towards the end of their life which they've selfishly dragged out far too long? Oh, and not to mention all those subsidies pensioners get to help with their winter heating bills, plus a free TV licence... who pays for all that? You (the fecking self righteous tax payer).

I've said it before and i'll say it again...

we have it so good in Blighty it amazes me how low people will stoop to have moan.

Eh? Do please explain to me where self-righteousness comes into it. Also, why you felt the need to 'say it again', and what 'it' has to do with it. (For what it's worth, I wasn't moaning; just querying the idea that a heavy expense is 'not the business' of the people footing the bill.)