Should I filter differently or not at all?

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Monkreadusuk

Über Member
On my commute home today I was filtering at a number of sets of traffic lights as I usually do. At one set the driver of a car I filtered passed sounded his horn at me in what I can only assume was disgust at my actions.

Any experienced cyclists here care to comment on my cycling and any improvements I could make?

I have included a bit of footage from before the incident to demonstrate my usual cycling style, however if you wish, skip to 2:30 for the incident above.

Many Thanks,


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tdeb1i0OO8&feature=youtu.be
 
You stopped the driver from getting to the next traffic jam. Knob. Ignore.
 
The reason I honked you (and unlike you I pay Road Tax, by the way) is that your little shopping bicycle, restricted as it is (or should be) to 12 mph is just bound to hold up my motor car, which is capable of three-figure speeds and has a sub-9-second 0-60 time.

If you don't like being offended by law-abiding motorists, may I suggest you stay off the road until you have a tax disc to prove you deserve to be there.

Next!
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
Two things I would have done differently
- Not filter to the front on the first set of lights. I would stop a car or two back from the lights and take a central position in the lane behind that car. Why? Some drivers have this red light watching mentality. It's like a drag strip, they watch the light and when it changes they see the open road ahead and want to go fast. Now you are in the way and they don't like that. However if you can keep up with the car in front of you, the driver behind will see there is a car in front and won't have the same "empty space must put foot down" mentality. The only time I do filter to the front is if I know a load of slow cyclists are going to go to the front which in the long run slows me down as it slows down the motorist in front of me
- the point at which the issue occurs, I would probably try and get in front of that silver car. Try and keep some of your momentum when filtering and re-joining lanes, it helps speed things up a bit.

However, that's just my style, nothing actually wrong with what you did. Driver obviously has a screw loose.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
If you know the junction layout, then what you do is fine.

I have a habit of filtering quite quickly. I read a post that said 15 mph was too fast. On the fixed, you have leg control, and having checked GPS speed I find I filter near to 20 mph off boil, as you would say....

Carry on.. As we say...
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
speaking from my newly qualified instructor status ;) (I've been dying to say that) i would say the following.

1. you are entitled to filter and did so on the correct side :thumbsup: but ...
2. I would take on board Gaz's comments from an etiquette point of view. you didn't do anything wrong but your actions did cause unnecessary annoyance. you weren't sure you could get to the front of the queue before the lights changed which means it may not have been the best decision to filter. Probably would have been better to wait at the back in primary position and let cars pull up behind you. Also, you came to an almost standstill just as the traffic was pulling away, which held up the driver longer than necessary, i would have kept moving until the silver car was just in front (or got in front of the silver car) and then signalled my intention to return to primary.

In my opinion filtering and cutting in like this is ok at roundabouts when one or two cars go at a time, leaving gaps to cut into, but I don't think it's appropriate at lights when you haven't got time to get to the front and all the cars will drive off at once, leaving you stranded between two lanes and finding it difficult to return to your position. It is far safer to wait your turn at the back of the queue and then the driver who pulls up behind is less likely to be annoyed at you taking time to pull off (as Gaz states). You can't blame a driver for being impatient if you can't show patience yourself. it's the hair line difference between aggressive cycling and assertive cycling.

We also talk about responsibility -v-avoidability. Often when it is the driver at fault there are things the cyclist could have done to avoid the situation. This isn't about bowing down to the car, and who's right and who's wrong, it's about self preservation. If the car had hit you, it would most likely have been his fault (responsibility), but that isn't going to be any comfort to you at all if you can't ever walk again. If that happened, you might be looking back saying to yourself, "I probably could have avoided that by waiting my turn in the queue" (avoidability). Primary position at the back of the queue is still asserting yourself and forcing drivers to respect your space.

obviously tho, speaking from a non-instructor point of view, i probably would have done the same and then if someone bibbed at me like that i'd ask him if my middle finger belonged to him :laugh:
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
ps... and no, he didn't have a right to beep you because you filtered... hence the advice on the middle finger
 
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Monkreadusuk

Über Member
[QUOTE 2519292, member: 30090"]If you want to filter like you did then you need to carry more speed.[/quote]

If traffic was moving I would have kept up the speed. Normally I would have filtered past one more car,maybe two as they moved off. For some reason I hung back this time :sad:
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
For those talking about keeping speed up. If the OP had done that he would have been cutting up the car in front. When the driver lent on the horn the silver car wasn't even pulling away from the OP, so how could have the driver been held up at all?

Mainly the OP got the horn because the driver felt offended at having someone get in front of them.
 
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