Should pop videos be 'age' rated?

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There is a whole bizarre thing going on with nudity and youth these days. It doesn't do to be constantly comparing today with one's own childhood, but I have few other comparisons.

When I was at primary (mixed) and secondary (single-sex) schools, we usually got changed for swimming, PE and so on in a big gaggle (sexes separated in primary school). Some kids were self conscious and sort of hit behind towel or shirt tails, but there was generally a mood of casual unawareness. I recall self-consciousness only in a few (myself included) during early puberty when apparently weird stuff was happening.

Similarly, at home it was normal to chat with a parent who was in the bath or getting dressed. Nudity was just sort of life but without clothes.

I've noticed in all my children that despite (I hope not because of!) our casual attitude to wandering around the home unclothed, there is a degree of prudery in the young that we would not have recognised.

My kids are all fairly sporty, but they and their peers do not all pile into the shower together after a match or training session. They change with towels held up, like damsels on the beach. When a friend comes over and they change for some activity or another, they do so one by one - with the other waiting outside the room. Somehow we have raised a generation of prudes.

Yet these prudes (boys in particular) are quite happy to watch the most extraordinary and explicit pornography and somehow take delight in the nudity of others. I do not speak only of my own children... it is pretty universal, but your kids might be better at deleting history. I find the dichotemy between personally slightly prudish ways and a sort of objectivising delight in fairly brutal and crude pornographic imagery quite odd and quite interesting.

To me, pop videos are nothing. I imagine they are made to attract the 14-18 market or those whose emotional or social development is sufficiently delayed to put them in that catchment group. A little nudity to yoof music sems tame in comparison with what all these kids can reach in five clicks on the Internet.
 
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MontyVeda

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just ban all music videos and lets get back to the music

Good idea... MTV and promotional videos are one of the worst things to happen to pop.
 
[QUOTE 2701509, member: 45"]No, that's not the point. It's clear that I used it as an example of the success of warnings. There's nothing there about comparison of content.

Anyway, if you think about what you've just written you'll understand thst it's not about prudishness to nudity.[/quote]

Well OK then for clarity here is the Miley Cyrus vid that has sparked the issue off.

http://www.vevo.com/watch/miley-cyrus/wrecking-ball/USRV81300400

Now forgive me but I see no more nudity in it than pans people were in 1975 and see nothing more suggestive than a flake or cola advert.

Who do you think should not see this video or what warning would you put on it.

Putting my view on the line - I have two daughters and have no issue with them watching the video at any age.
 
You said 50 years ago earlier, anyway have you seen the list of records banned by the BBC, hilarious!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC

Yes sorry to mislead. They played the record this morning and said it was banned 50 years ago and I used that without checking it first. Only later I realised it was not 50 years.

The banned song list is hilarious. We can take some comfort in that there seems to be much less banning now than there used to be.
 
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MontyVeda

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Well OK then for clarity here is the Miley Cyrus vid that has sparked the issue off.

http://www.vevo.com/watch/miley-cyrus/wrecking-ball/USRV81300400

Now forgive me but I see no more nudity in it than pans people were in 1975 and see nothing more suggestive than a flake or cola advert.

Who do you think should not see this video or what warning would you put on it.

Putting my view on the line - I have two daughters and have no issue with them watching the video at any age.

i don't think Pan's People ever appeared naked on a wrecking ball... but I take your point.

Yesterday's Weekend Woman's hour addressed some of the issues this topic is trying to address, and is worth a listen if anyone's interested... link
 
Not so much the videos, but meaning and context of the song itself changes.

This was a single for Children in Need!


Yet allegedly was about getting stoned on Cocaine
 
Like all of the BBC / ITV programmes of this era, the young ladies of ITV were a little sexier and edgier than the BBC (- see previous)

However in this case the BBC was the one who outdid Pans People when they used Hot Gossip for the Kenny Everett show
 
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