peterdowning
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Richard A Thackeray
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Are 're-builds' acceptable?
After repaints/frame updates?
(not a recent bike, but one I still miss)
After repaints/frame updates?
(not a recent bike, but one I still miss)
raleighnut
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If you've taken a bike totally apart (Barring the rear mech/shifters etc ) I'd say so unless it was just a 'full service'
Richard A Thackeray
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I did
Although I personally didn't repaint it, or machine out the BB shell for better cartridge bearings
raleighnut
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I'd dispute that 'cartridge' BBs are better than square taper with replaceable bearing races, this does however only apply if you have an oldish shaft in good condition as the hardening on new ones is dreadful and that you service the BB regularly (every couple of years)
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Here a couple of Planet X London Road frames I built about a year ago. Considering they are the same frame, both are totally different to ride but great fun in their own way.
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Simple answer is to tension the chain 
. But it's not connected there as I was still messing about with chain lengths and sprocket sizes and that particular iteration didn't need it.... ratios were wrong though 
. But it's not connected there as I was still messing about with chain lengths and sprocket sizes and that particular iteration didn't need it.... ratios were wrong though
Richard A Thackeray
Legendary Member
PART 1
Back in 1990, I replaced my ('89) Marin Pine Mountain, with a Pace Research RC100
I'd taken notice of this Yorkshire built MTB, from the very day I knew of it, from the magazine Mountain Biking UK (May 1989)
(the other magazine is the USA 'Mountain Bike Action' Jan 1991)
A local shop had a second-hand one in stock, that I'd been told about, at circa £1100 (back in 1990!)
I px'd the Pine,
Just a couple here of it, when I first raced it
It was quite high-tech, for its day
A square-section frame (barring head-tube & BB) - externally triple-butted!
Bullseye cranks, which were hollow steel, & had the R/H crank welded to the axle, with the L/H crank bolting on (multiple splines)
Magura hydraulic rim brakes, which were very powerful, but, no provision for reinserting an inflated tyre (both calipers were solid mounted
Reynolds 531 fork-legs, replaceable separately, clamped into a machined crown
The precursor of an Ahead-Set (or whatever name they're known by today, but, with the stem also being the steerer tube see photographs below
(granted, differing stem lengths were an issue, but if ordered new, the correct length/angle was supplied
Grease-nipples (vehicle type) on the BB & head-set (later on, when they produced their own hubs, those had a grease port too)
Not My Pace
Just for illustration
PART 2 below.........
Back in 1990, I replaced my ('89) Marin Pine Mountain, with a Pace Research RC100
I'd taken notice of this Yorkshire built MTB, from the very day I knew of it, from the magazine Mountain Biking UK (May 1989)
(the other magazine is the USA 'Mountain Bike Action' Jan 1991)
A local shop had a second-hand one in stock, that I'd been told about, at circa £1100 (back in 1990!)
I px'd the Pine,
Just a couple here of it, when I first raced it
It was quite high-tech, for its day
A square-section frame (barring head-tube & BB) - externally triple-butted!
Bullseye cranks, which were hollow steel, & had the R/H crank welded to the axle, with the L/H crank bolting on (multiple splines)
Magura hydraulic rim brakes, which were very powerful, but, no provision for reinserting an inflated tyre (both calipers were solid mounted
Reynolds 531 fork-legs, replaceable separately, clamped into a machined crown
The precursor of an Ahead-Set (or whatever name they're known by today, but, with the stem also being the steerer tube see photographs below
(granted, differing stem lengths were an issue, but if ordered new, the correct length/angle was supplied
Grease-nipples (vehicle type) on the BB & head-set (later on, when they produced their own hubs, those had a grease port too)
Not My Pace
Just for illustration
PART 2 below.........
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Richard A Thackeray
Legendary Member
PART 2
Sorry folks, Part 1 was just a bit of background
However, as the splines wore, & the fact that lateral play was only stopped by the tightness, & a rather small (little fingernail, or smaller!) collet
That said, they did come in a varying range of sizes;
152mm, 157mm, 162mm, 167mm, 172mm, 178mm, 181mm, 184mm
And, amazingly a 222mm
http://www.bikepro.com/products/cranks/bullseye.html
It started to get a bit worn. chipped
So, I decided to revamp it (bad move, with hindsight)
I took it back to the factory/workshops, which at that time, were in Leeming (between Denholme & Oxenhope), not the Leeming up the A1, with the RAF base
Duncan sorted it out for me (one of the designers/engineers/company owners)
I did contemplate asking him to upgrade(??) it to cantilever bosses, but was talked out of it
I think, from memory Ellis-Briggs painted it
During the time away, I'd done some shopping
A Ritchey seat-pin, to get more set-back
Gary Proud, at Kendell Cycles (Castleford) built me a new pair of wheels
Mavic 231(?) rims, D/B spokes, onto Deore XT2 hubs (7-speed, at the time)
Specialised Hard-Park 1.5" tyres (I rode 'light', due to the CX)
Cue, aged, silly (scanned) prints
The fork-legs, stem & cranks were chrome-plated
As An Aside
And, from the past too
My near namesake, who I still see every so often
I also know his brother Robert, who was on the National Junior CX squad, with Richard.............. and a certain young lad by the name of Roger Hammond
1991 - 1992?
This often caused confusion, as organisers/signers-on thought I was in wrong category/changed clubs/looked older when stationary, etc.....
In fact it still does, on various cycling forums/social media
2016, at the (Bingley Harriers) 'Harriers v Cyclists' race
Richard is a 'BH' member, as are the Brownlees (who he sometimes rides with) and Rob Jebb
Apologies, if it was a bit rambling, but I presume there'd have been questions about the Pace frame/fork design, so I thought I'd try to pre-empt them
Sorry folks, Part 1 was just a bit of background
As stated above, the cranks utilised a press-fit bearing
However, as the splines wore, & the fact that lateral play was only stopped by the tightness, & a rather small (little fingernail, or smaller!) collet
That said, they did come in a varying range of sizes;
152mm, 157mm, 162mm, 167mm, 172mm, 178mm, 181mm, 184mm
And, amazingly a 222mm
http://www.bikepro.com/products/cranks/bullseye.html
It started to get a bit worn. chipped
So, I decided to revamp it (bad move, with hindsight)
I took it back to the factory/workshops, which at that time, were in Leeming (between Denholme & Oxenhope), not the Leeming up the A1, with the RAF base
Duncan sorted it out for me (one of the designers/engineers/company owners)
I did contemplate asking him to upgrade(??) it to cantilever bosses, but was talked out of it
I think, from memory Ellis-Briggs painted it
During the time away, I'd done some shopping
A Ritchey seat-pin, to get more set-back
Gary Proud, at Kendell Cycles (Castleford) built me a new pair of wheels
Mavic 231(?) rims, D/B spokes, onto Deore XT2 hubs (7-speed, at the time)
Specialised Hard-Park 1.5" tyres (I rode 'light', due to the CX)
Cue, aged, silly (scanned) prints
The fork-legs, stem & cranks were chrome-plated
As An Aside
And, from the past too
My near namesake, who I still see every so often
I also know his brother Robert, who was on the National Junior CX squad, with Richard.............. and a certain young lad by the name of Roger Hammond
1991 - 1992?
This often caused confusion, as organisers/signers-on thought I was in wrong category/changed clubs/looked older when stationary, etc.....
In fact it still does, on various cycling forums/social media
2016, at the (Bingley Harriers) 'Harriers v Cyclists' race
Richard is a 'BH' member, as are the Brownlees (who he sometimes rides with) and Rob Jebb
Apologies, if it was a bit rambling, but I presume there'd have been questions about the Pace frame/fork design, so I thought I'd try to pre-empt them
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MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
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- Lancaster... the little city.
I know it's a three year old post but... WTF is that?!
Nothing to show yet but just ordered an Alpkit Sonder Camino AL (Chilli red - S). Rather than risk a divorce (after my first self-build, a Genesis Vagabond) Alpkit are kindly going to fit the headset before sending it out.
Planning on Tiagra 4700 STI's and front & rear dérailleurs (really like it after fitting to the Vagabond), but I can't decide on the chainset, either Tiagra 50-34 Ext BB or Spa Cycles 48-33 internal BB, with an 11-32 cassette. At the moment I need a second hip replacement so I might be being a bit wimpish on the gearing as I'm finding riding quite painful (it wasn't a problem with the first replacement - the other side, not a second replacement, always like everything to match
). The Vagabond was built as a Tourer with a Deore 30-28 chainset, but I've just ordered a 26t, and 11-34 cassette, which I think will be more than sufficient for my planned LE-JOG-LE (would have been this year but for the hip, so it could be a year or two yet).
When I have the Vagabond completely how I want it I will upload some photos.
Planning on Tiagra 4700 STI's and front & rear dérailleurs (really like it after fitting to the Vagabond), but I can't decide on the chainset, either Tiagra 50-34 Ext BB or Spa Cycles 48-33 internal BB, with an 11-32 cassette. At the moment I need a second hip replacement so I might be being a bit wimpish on the gearing as I'm finding riding quite painful (it wasn't a problem with the first replacement - the other side, not a second replacement, always like everything to match
). The Vagabond was built as a Tourer with a Deore 30-28 chainset, but I've just ordered a 26t, and 11-34 cassette, which I think will be more than sufficient for my planned LE-JOG-LE (would have been this year but for the hip, so it could be a year or two yet).When I have the Vagabond completely how I want it I will upload some photos.
Tin Pot
Guru
Richard A Thackeray
Legendary Member
A friend of mine looked at the Argon (Tri) frame, I believe, but decided to buy a Canyon instead
It's green, & last years, so I guess it's this one
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/triathlon/speedmax/speedmax-cf-slx-9-0-sl.html
Tin Pot
Guru
Yeah, the Speedmax does well at Kona but it’s a bit Lamborghini for me, whilst Argon18 are super sexy Ferrari/Porsche.
Similar to the car references, the fat, old guy riding them kinda disappoints the crowd
