raleighnut
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What a pillock, I hope you disputed the sanction
Signing on - the irony
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classic33
Leg End Member
I did, and the system came down in her favour every time.
To be fair though, she only gets good wages, 8 weeks holiday and a nice pension package, not enough I suppose to expect her or them to do their job properly.
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PaulSecteur
No longer a Specialized fanboy
- Location
- Walsall, West Mids.
One of the biggest shocks I had about the job centre is that they are not there to help me get a job.
Since being made redundant I did a Cisco CCNA and a Juniper JNCIA course (both are computer networking). Reasonable qualifications to get an entry level position, or so I thought. Im having real problems getting my first job as I dont have any experience in this field, although I do have 20 years experience as an electronic production technician - so still a technical role.
The jobcentre claimed they could help, they havent. They then referred me to another me to another organisation that claimed to "Have links with companys that can help me get a first position". That hasn't happened either - I just go there once every 2 weeks to tell them what I have been doing for jobsearches.
So when I sign on theres the greeters at the door (First person), then the person that looks a my online jobsearch (second person), then the one that I go to to speak with about any local jobs coming up (third person), then (if its working) the electronic sign on person (fourth person) and now this other place I go to (fifth person).
So my unemployment is creating up to 5 jobs to check, but not really help, in me looking for a job.
And dont get me started on CVs, I have had mine looked at by so many people that all say the last one was OK but can be improved on its beyond funny. That leads to 3 or 4 appointments to have it looked at and worked on by someone else.
Since being made redundant I did a Cisco CCNA and a Juniper JNCIA course (both are computer networking). Reasonable qualifications to get an entry level position, or so I thought. Im having real problems getting my first job as I dont have any experience in this field, although I do have 20 years experience as an electronic production technician - so still a technical role.
The jobcentre claimed they could help, they havent. They then referred me to another me to another organisation that claimed to "Have links with companys that can help me get a first position". That hasn't happened either - I just go there once every 2 weeks to tell them what I have been doing for jobsearches.
So when I sign on theres the greeters at the door (First person), then the person that looks a my online jobsearch (second person), then the one that I go to to speak with about any local jobs coming up (third person), then (if its working) the electronic sign on person (fourth person) and now this other place I go to (fifth person).
So my unemployment is creating up to 5 jobs to check, but not really help, in me looking for a job.
And dont get me started on CVs, I have had mine looked at by so many people that all say the last one was OK but can be improved on its beyond funny. That leads to 3 or 4 appointments to have it looked at and worked on by someone else.
And that was just the staff!
I wouldn't I'd see what the person had to say. I don't really see the relevance though I don't work for the DWP and certainly wouldn't advocate using the methods of dealing with people that jobcentres seem to. Aspects of jobcentres seem to me to be more of a masterclass in how not to treat people. In a sense it is completely irrelevant unless you have an assessor so blinkered that can only grasp one or the other in some kind of binary way and vastly underestimating cases and not doing their job.
There are many people who are mentally or physically disabled or both who are not on DLA. So my description of even long term jobseeker's allowance claimants as containing these groups is something that should not be controversial.
I've met some people with epilepsy who it is undoubtedly a physical condition, lived with someone and know more about that person's epilepsy than anyone else in the world that there are arguably elements of both (which would generate quite intense arguments with people who don't know her or know her a bit) and some people where there is undoubtedly substantial mental disability.
Finally there are people who meet the definitions of disability and who say for a variety of reasons that they do not under any circumstances have a disability. There are also people who do not know. All of these are things that should be taken into account.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
This is just ridiculous! Would they also expect someone who had never learned to drive or who was banned due to driving offences to apply for driving jobs?
Surely the reason you can't drive is immaterial?
classic33
Leg End Member
Mines a legal reason that has to be declared. So driving jobs never get considered, by me.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
If you legally cannot drive, that puts you in exactly the same position, legally, as someone who does not have a license because they have never learned. I wonder if they are also forced to apply for driving jobs?
What sort of chimps in shoes are in charge here?
They do have links to such organisations, what they don't tell you is that it will be some backroom staff that met them some months ago and has met them or someone in the back knows someone in a building in town that deals with it. Or they won't tell you that it's on their intranet but that virtually nobody reads that and they are just signing you on and onto the next client so they don't have time to look it up for you. A lot of the jobcentre staff are not confident with their computers too.
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Being pedantic that's not strictly true, if you don't have a license you could theoretically train & obtain one, if you have one but not of the correct type again you could possibly obtain one, neither of these options are open to @classic33 but I do take your point
tony111
Veteran
Luckily I've only needed social security once, which was back in 1980. I'd been out of work for 2 weeks and had an appointment, so I took our bank book that had a tenner in it and our mortgage payment book. We had a 3 month old baby girl and they explained to me that they needed to see her savings account as they had to take it into account. I told them I won't bother thank you as it's a small piggy bank on a shelf in the nursery. I walked out feeling a bit angry with the world. The following week we received a Giro cheque for 75 pence. I was gonna frame it , but the wife cashed it, we were that desperate.
mickle
innit
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I came back from three years living in the States to discover that someone had been claiming unemployment benefit on my behalf!
