So sad.
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growingvegetables
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There's any number of small signs of solidarity we give each other on the road - from nods or waves as we pass, to greetings and even conversation?
Fwiw, I don't mind the brief courtesy and respect. RIP, young lass.
Hey, there's no obligation to add your consideration. I don't sign them all myself.
Fwiw, I don't mind the brief courtesy and respect. RIP, young lass.
Hey, there's no obligation to add your consideration. I don't sign them all myself.
Harsh
Accy cyclist
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I'd say it's sad, and im not family or a friend, but a fellow cyclist. When you say "we're all going to die in the end" true, but there are better circumstances in which to meet your maker, and when we do we hope it'll be a lot older than 21!
addictfreak
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I would hope that we would all find the death of 21 year old young lady in such tragic circumstances a very sad event indeed.
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Yes i think we do- in fact I would like to see every cyclist dying as headlines on the 10 o clock bbc television news.
You seem to be falling into the abyss of people dying on our roads as just one of those things - May be if the same level of unacceptability of people dying on our railways was the norm for people dying on the roads, then may be all road users would sit up and take note of the carnage that is taking place. Then as attitudes change, may be as cyclist we would not feel quite so vulnerable.
I think a 21 year old girl dying is very sad.[/quote]
Err yeah, did you read the article? She fell off of her own accord while riding on the pavement. A totally self inflicted incident.
You're not putting a great case forward by trying to blame fictional road users. Lets fight the issues that make a difference, like asking for more patience and wider passing.
Yes i think we do- in fact I would like to see every cyclist dying as headlines on the 10 o clock bbc television news.
You seem to be falling into the abyss of people dying on our roads as just one of those things - May be if the same level of unacceptability of people dying on our railways was the norm for people dying on the roads, then may be all road users would sit up and take note of the carnage that is taking place. Then as attitudes change, may be as cyclist we would not feel quite so vulnerable.
I think a 21 year old girl dying is very sad.[/quote]
Err yeah, did you read the article? She fell off of her own accord while riding on the pavement. A totally self inflicted incident.
You're not putting a great case forward by trying to blame fictional road users. Lets fight the issues that make a difference, like asking for more patience and wider passing.
Honestly i couldn't care less. I came to accept that lots of sad things happen every day, but unless i can do something about them, or unless they directly affect me, then there is no point in pretending to care. Through the internet and 24hr news you could engross yourself in stories much worse than this every minute of every day, but it wouldn't achieve anything. Me "feeling sad" about this is worthless, so it's best just to accept the facts of life and get on with it.
mr_hippo
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Yes i think we do- in fact I would like to see every cyclist dying as headlines on the 10 o clock bbc television news.
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Unlike you, I would like to see that no cyclist has died on the road but that will never,ever happen. Did you mean 'every cyclist dying' or 'every cyclist dying in a RTA'? If your neighbour only uses his bike to get to Tesco and dies at home from a heart attack, does that count as a 'cyclist dying'? Would you have posted if the cyclist had been a ninja, chav hoodie and not a pretty 21 year old girl? I think not!
Yes i think we do- in fact I would like to see every cyclist dying as headlines on the 10 o clock bbc television news.
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Unlike you, I would like to see that no cyclist has died on the road but that will never,ever happen. Did you mean 'every cyclist dying' or 'every cyclist dying in a RTA'? If your neighbour only uses his bike to get to Tesco and dies at home from a heart attack, does that count as a 'cyclist dying'? Would you have posted if the cyclist had been a ninja, chav hoodie and not a pretty 21 year old girl? I think not!
lordloveaduck
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He does have a point. The persons death has nothing to do with cycling on the road or road safety .It's more of a case of s**t happens. It just happened to this person.
I agree apart from the point of feeling sad. The amount of unnatural deaths that take place in this world compared to someone slipping on a pavement, is a world of difference.
I feel nothing for the family or person in question, it's not my concern. There name and face will already be forgotten with in moments by people who have scanned the article.
It's pretty much a none story, but as long as a bicycle is mentioned somewhere in there i guess it has to be mentioned (although i don't know why? unless it's just for the sake of posting it).
Hip Priest
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Oscar Wilde
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I'd say that to disregard a tragic death as meaningless unless we know the person is sad. So you should only feel sympathy for a person if they're related to you, or a close friend? Aren't we regarding human life as part of a machine and when that part dies(stops working)then we replace it, not cry over it?
Tyrannical regimes over the years have regarded human life as there to serve the state and "the cause". Not to be mourned over when gone, but to be used to serve the state and its ideals. I knew of such a person who believed in such ideals, he said that when a person is dead that's it! They have served their purpose now they are gone! He didn't believe in visiting graves, attending funerals, mourning etc.
If we think like this aren't we becoming detached from the meaning of life, which is to live and not serve?
Human life is cheap in many countries, as we have seen by constant bombings and other atrocities in troubled regions of the world. If we can dismiss a tragic accidental death as meaningless, unless we know the person, then aren't we becoming as hardened as the ones who kill at ease?
Tyrannical regimes over the years have regarded human life as there to serve the state and "the cause". Not to be mourned over when gone, but to be used to serve the state and its ideals. I knew of such a person who believed in such ideals, he said that when a person is dead that's it! They have served their purpose now they are gone! He didn't believe in visiting graves, attending funerals, mourning etc.
If we think like this aren't we becoming detached from the meaning of life, which is to live and not serve?
Human life is cheap in many countries, as we have seen by constant bombings and other atrocities in troubled regions of the world. If we can dismiss a tragic accidental death as meaningless, unless we know the person, then aren't we becoming as hardened as the ones who kill at ease?
lordloveaduck
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No. Posting something just for the sake of it is something else. This person will be forgotten like all the other 'This person is dead' posts.
It's akin to funeral crashers
growingvegetables
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Yes - and the other articles linked to it. Which suggest that there may be more to it, and that your speculation may well be wrong.
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