So sad.

[Eddie]

Human life is cheap in many countries, as we have seen by constant bombings and other atrocities in troubled regions of the world. If we can dismiss a tragic accidental death as meaningless, unless we know the person, then aren't we becoming as hardened as the ones who kill at ease?

Simply put, no. You've made such a huge logical fallacy that i'm not actually sure how to address it. It's not so much an argument, as a vaguely drawn together string of barely related sentences, each moving further away from reality, and towards the most bizarrely conclusion it would actually be possible to derive, based on the original premise.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Maybe Natasha chose the pavement because of the speeding drivers who use that road that the residents complained about. Quite a few cyclists ride on pavements to avoid cars travelling above the speed limit. We don't know for sure if she was on the pavement but fear of traffic is often the cause of pavement cycling.

You're on the pavement, get off and walk.

Or do you think laws only apply to other people?

 

[dawesome]

Err yeah, did you read the article? She fell off of her own accord while riding on the pavement. A totally self inflicted incident.

What did the police say when you told them you'd solved the case? You're making up stuff that you haven't a clue about and blaming the cyclist before the investigation has even finished.

 

[dawesome]

You're on the pavement, get off and walk.

Or do you think laws only apply to other people?

I don't cycle on pavements, I'm making the observation that many cyclists choose to avoid mixing with fast-moving traffic like the traffic on this road where speeding is common, according to the locals:

People living near Church Bank told the Chronicle the road had always caused them concern and is regularly monitored by mobile speed cameras.

A woman, who did not want to be named, said: “That road is really dangerous. They come down here far too fast. The speed van is there quite often. But as soon as it’s not there they speed up again.”


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2012/08/24/tributes-paid-to-tragic-wallsend-mum-hit-by-bus-72703-31689061/2/#ixzz24Z9yoBPd

 

[numbnuts]

After reading your comments I feel disgusted with some of you, if you can't say something nice don't post

 

[TonyEnjoyD]

After reading your comments I feel disgusted with some of you, if you can't say something nice don't post

+1 to that

 

[lordloveaduck]

I never knew what the thread was about until i followed the link. 'So Sad' could have been about anything from a puncture to a dirty bike.

Aren't these threads like slowing down by an RTA or standing around and pointing while eating your Haribos. It's all rather ghoulish and has nothing to do with passing on condolences to the next of kin or are you chaps planning on forgoing that purchase of the item that you don't need and sending in a anonymous donation to the family as there is no life insurance to pay for the funeral costs.

All you need to do if you want to see how many cyclist are killed is 'Google' and you entertain yourselves for hours while drinking your cups of tea and eyeing up your next purchase.

 

[dawesome]

For me part of the merit in posting a thread such as this is in each of us examining our own riding habits in a bid to preserve our safety.

I don't know whether the woman in question was riding on the pavement. Some riders do so because they believe it to be safer than being on the road, but a great many crashes occur when riders rejoin the carriageway, or cross a road. If we were to acknowledge that and think carefully about what we do as either riders, or drivers, it might help reduce the toll of death and injury on our road system.

Some people have remarked that only her family and friends will be affected by this tragedy - may I ask whether they have ever attended the scene of a fatal crash as an emergency service worker? I have, and every fatal I have ever been to is forever etched into my mind. The effects of our road carnage spread out over a very wide area.

I extend my sympathies to all touched by this crash.

Well said.

If cyclists are intimidated by speeding traffic on this road and so choose the pavement then addressing the real issue could save lives. I think an awful lot of buses have cctv cameras installed (some London buses have twelve separate cameras!) so they could be a massive help in the investigation. The Facebook tributes to Natasha are incredibly moving, a witness who comforted Natasha, held her hand and stroked her hair has posted. God knows what she's going through now. I don't know if I'd have the strength or courage to do that. Apparently Natasha's sister witnessed the incident too, poor girl.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

These threads do tend to attract the Death Groupies.

Somebody we've never heard of and would never be likely to becomes one of the thousands of people who die every day. I'm sure even the most cynical posters here would push a button to bring her back if there was one, but there ain't so we can't.

Life can be hazardous and it could be anyone next, there'll always be fallout. Grieve if you know them or know of them but don't keep pushing the false stuff about complete strangers on everyone to gain Holier Than Thou points.

 

[dawesome]

No, saying "I don't care" after a young mother has been killed is ghoulish and inhumane.

If I'm not interested in a thread I don't post on it, why repeatedly say "I don't care!" on this thread? Why not see if anything can be learned so that similar tragedies are avoided? And once again a Google search could bring up this thread, maybe for Natasha's family's sake people could stop saying her death doesn't matter or was her fault, please.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

I don't think the family would appreciate people trying to score cheap anti motorist political points by using the girls death when you have no idea of the circumstances of the accident.

 

[dawesome]

I don't think the family would appreciate people trying to score cheap anti motorist political points by using the girls death when you have no idea of the circumstances of the accident.

Me neither. Luckily nobody's done that. You never quite summon the courage to say what you mean do you? You can't name the "death groupies" -whatever they are, you can't say what the "false stuff" is, and you can't actually cite any " cheap anti motorist political points".

 

[Scoosh]

This thread is going nowhere, except become abusive.


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