Some advice re: positioning, please...

[Markymark]

Young people have more accidents, I think that's a given.

My link above - http://money.aol.co.uk/2012/05/02/prestige-cars-take-accident-rate-hit/ shows that although they are higher than average, they're not in the top for accidents. Yes, that is differnt to driving dangerously, but one would assume that unless all Audi and BMW drivers are above avergare at handling their cars, then they would go hand in hand.

You may well be right, but do you have any facts that demonstrate that Audi/BMW are more dangerous drivers?

 

[MisterStan]

This implies you're simply mistaken, Jonny.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fp7flAWMA&feature=youtu.be


It's quite credible that a particular vehicle type will attract a particular subset of people.

What we've learned here is that we should all disguise ourselves as leaves and the cars will leave us alone.

 

[dodd82]

Young people have more accidents, I think that's a given.

My link above - http://money.aol.co.uk/2012/05/02/prestige-cars-take-accident-rate-hit/ shows that although they are higher than average, they're not in the top for accidents. Yes, that is differnt to driving dangerously, but one would assume that unless all Audi and BMW drivers are above avergare at handling their cars, then they would go hand in hand.

You may well be right, but do you have any facts that demonstrate that Audi/BMW are more dangerous drivers?

The initial point wasn't that Audi and BMW's are the bad boys of the road and worse than anything else.

As the thread has gone on, I've clarified that my comments are in comparison to to that of a Micra, for example.

Perhaps the reason Audis and BMWs are the focal point for my opinion is because you'd see more of them than some of the prestige cars featured i.e. they're more accessible.

 

[Markymark]

Maybe, but Volvo's are 2nd on the list and I'd be interetsted to know what your profile of Volvo drivers are.

Yes different cars and brands are bought by different people. I think ulitmaly there are good drivers and bad drivers. Forming an opinion can ultimately be dangerous as if you assume there are 'bad' cars, the flip would mean there are 'good' cars and that assumption could leave you with a flase impression that this car is less likely to do something stupid/dangerous/agressive and put yoruslef at risk

 

[Glow worm]

Maybe, but Volvo's are 2nd on the list and I'd be interetsted to know what your profile of Volvo drivers are.

Not sure about profiling them but the indictor switch on Volvos must be very well hidden indeed.

 

[MisterStan]

Not sure about profiling them but the indictor switch on Volvos must be very well hidden indeed.

Perhaps as the sidelights come on automatically, people don't think they need to use them?

 

[Glow worm]

Perhaps as the sidelights come on automatically, people don't think they need to use them?

I did see a Volvo indicate yesterday on my way home and nearly fell off the bike in shock!

 

[dodd82]

Maybe, but Volvo's are 2nd on the list and I'd be interetsted to know what your profile of Volvo drivers are.

Yes different cars and brands are bought by different people. I think ulitmaly there are good drivers and bad drivers. Forming an opinion can ultimately be dangerous as if you assume there are 'bad' cars, the flip would mean there are 'good' cars and that assumption could leave you with a flase impression that this car is less likely to do something stupid/dangerous/agressive and put yoruslef at risk

Fair point, but I would expect there to be the odd outlier.

The reality is that statistics show a trend in high performance cars and their relation to accidents/speeding, there's also statistics to show certain types of profession that are most likely to be caught speeding.

Add to that facts about certain ages, sex etc of people that work in these professions and tend to drive these cars, and you build a logical basis for the view.

Of course, this doesn't mean drivers of these cars are 'worse drivers'. It simply means that if you see someone speeding and as a related term, driving aggressively, then they're more likely to be in a high performance car like a BMW or Audi than they are something like a Micra.

 

[Kookas]

I bet professional car racers are the most sensible drivers when they're out on the public roads. Just strikes me as making sense.

 

[CopperCyclist]

I bet professional car racers are the most sensible drivers when they're out on the public roads. Just strikes me as making sense.

From a documentary I saw on Damon Hill years ago, that might not hold true. I remember the blokes line when Hill drove him to some function he was attending... "I had wondered how an F1 driver would drive on the road, and I now had my answer. Fast."

Of course, Damon Hill's 'fast' may actually be safer than some people's 'slow'... but the fact it scared the bloke suggests it couldn't be called sensible!

 

[Hip Priest]

I bet professional car racers are the most sensible drivers when they're out on the public roads. Just strikes me as making sense.

Gilles Villeneuve drove with such reckless abandon that his wife used to lie cowering in the footwell. Journalists used to refuse lifts. He was never going to make old bones, bless him.

 

[Markymark]

Nah, pro car drivers have higher car insurance. The problem is that men tend to drive at the limit of their ability and although pro car drivers can drive better they are on roads that are not up to track standards and other car drivers coming the other way.