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Rickshaw Phil

Overconfidentii Vulgaris
Moderator
Brilliant except the last car looks like its more than 25 years old, could it be tax exempt?
I doubt it. That looks like a late 80's/early 90's one. Tax exemption on age only applies to cars made in or before December 1972.

When the scheme first came in it was for all cars over 25 years old...... then the government realised how many 25 year old cars were actually on the road :B) so they locked it to a fixed date coz they were losing revenue.
 

DougieAB

Getting the messages
Nice! Made me think of my last altercation with a BMW driver who overtook me on a sharp left hand corner. Before he sped off he said, and I quote "Who's the car, and who's the bike?" My next thought was "Who's the peanut?"
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
To be fair to poor old Sam, someone paying £450 in "Road Tax" is probably in need of the services of a Money Saving Expert.


you would be surprised what actually falls into that bracket. I was . thought it was just mahoosive cars or "wankpanzers" but there are quite a few family cars in there.
 

thelawnet

Well-Known Member
Have investigated a little, and it seems they have deleted (at least) seven posts from the thread which was here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=3812693

including several pictures of vehicles parked in cycle lanes.

It might well be that a driver read the post and complained to MSE.

My experience with MSE is that if anyone complains to them about any given post on their forums, they will delete it, no questions asked. So you can say 'you illegally photographed my car, invasion of privacy, human rights, remove these posts in this thread', and they will just do it because the staff are poorly paid/trained and it's cheaper and safer to just delete any thing at the first sign of trouble.

There was a thread about this bunch of fraudsters:

http://fotios.org/node/2173

on their site, it was up for quite a few months and people posted their bad experiences. One day the thread vanished, and their lowly paid staff deleted all questions about it and also ignored emails sent in enquiry. They are actually one of ebay's largest sellers, with over a million items sold, mostly poor-quality generic phone accessories, but also a significant amount of counterfeit goods. Trading Standards were too underresourced to even respond to my email, and redirected me to 'Consumer Helpless' or some such, where I got an inane drone on the phone who tried to tell me about my rights (I know what my rights are, what I want is for you to stop this fraudulent trading), and so posts on sites like MSE are a significant piece of consumer protection.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
So people think council tax covers the cost of upkeep of the roads ? Interesting.

no, we just know that it goes into the general taxation pot and is then divvyed up accordingly. overlysimplistic but then sometimes it needs to be for those that can be hard of understanding.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
you would be surprised what actually falls into that bracket. I was . thought it was just mahoosive cars or "wankpanzers" but there are quite a few family cars in there.

Quite possibly. Although our family car (estate, in which nippers & a dog are ferried about) is nowhere near. If the guy's unhappy at paying £450, maybe he should make different choices. Takes all sorts, I s'pose.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Quite possibly. Although our family car (estate, in which nippers & a dog are ferried about) is nowhere near. If the guy's unhappy at paying £450, maybe he should make different choices. Takes all sorts, I s'pose.


quite right, if we were all cycle fascists then the world would be a dull place. I choose the best form of transport for the task . mostly thats the bike. sometimes it need to be the 4x4.
 

Raa

Active Member
I just tried to think of circumstances where, in a modern city, a 4x4 would represent the best form of transport for a given task, but I really can't think of any at all. Maybe that makes me a 'cyclefascist' :laugh:
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
I just tried to think of circumstances where, in a modern city, a 4x4 would represent the best form of transport for a given task, but I really can't think of any at all. Maybe that makes me a 'cyclefascist' :laugh:

I didn't say driving in the city with it. I live in what could possibly be described as the suburbs , and head out into the great outdoors with it loaded up to the gills with the bikes camping kit. tried it in a supermini but it just wouldn't cut it. better for the environment than flying off to ooorup for a fortnight in the sun.
 
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