Yes my Secteur was good too, bought as an entry level to see if I took to cycling and did get the bug,was always gonna use it as a first bike with a future upgrade in mind,I sold it as the cube Gtc agree pro was on a great offer,bought it on a whim,but never really took to it was not comfy compared to secteur but I was swayed by the offer it was on,in hindsight I should of waited,didn't want to hear your Tarmac is just as comfy lol,Roubaix is on offer,the 2015 model is dearer but does have a new dampener seat post,guess they are going the way Canyon and Trek have done with their seat posts,2014-2015 same spec and both nice paint jobs but £300 more for 2015 so looks like it's the 2014 although the problem is the offer bike they want full payment the other I can buy 0% finance,decision is gonna be harder than a 8% hill climb.