Speeding Cyclists on LBC after 8pm news

[Crankarm]

Why don't the cyclist undertake a protest.

All the cyclists run next to their bikes around the park.

So they will effectively be going faster than 5mph but not actually cycling.

A 5mph limit is essentially a cycle ban.

I can track stand faster than that. I suspect this "limit" is totally unenforceable. Park officials and police totally misinterpreting legislation and abusing their powers. For a start there is no legal requirement to have a speedometer on a bike. How about people walking and running faster than 5mph or even dogs on the loose charging around?

 

[Sore Thumb]

TBH I didn't hear this debate - but if its like any other debate on LBC re cycling I'm guessing it was pretty ill informed.
A couple of years ago Julia Hartley Brewer 'debated' a clip of a cyclist being undertaken in a bus lane by a police car.
There is the Evening Standard article about the video here: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...r-turns-anger-into-a-youtube-hit-8196791.html
It descended into a pretty ill informed debate withion minutes with the host admitting she was clueless about when one is allowed to undertake, if ever. The usual cycle haters rang in. One said he had twisted his windscreen washer jets so he could deliberately squirt cyclists and encouraged others to do so. She laughed and said it was a great idea. I did complain to ofcom about sanctioning crime on a national radio station - last time I checked they said the complaint was still open, but I doubt they'll do anything about it...

The thing is, it is not just about a debate, the police are using radar to inforce this so called 5mph rule.

 

[addictfreak]

Can cyclists be booked for speeding?
Cyclists can’t be booked for speeding, but might be fined for ‘cycling furiously’ or ‘riding furiously’ which is an offence under the 1847 Town Police Clauses Act. However, cyclists can be convicted for ‘wanton and furious driving’ under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1948 (c. 58), s. 1(2)) if they cause bodily harm to any person. They are then guilty of a misdemeanour and could, at the discretion of the court, be imprisoned for up to two years.

https://www.eta.co.uk/cycling-and-the-law/#LAWFAQ11

 

[Drago]

Not a misdemanour. It's triable either way, summary or indictable. That's cheap solicitors for you.

 

[Venod]

‘cycling furiously’ or ‘riding furiously’

What a wonderful sounding offence.

 

[CopperBrompton]

Can cyclists be booked for speeding?
Cyclists can’t be booked for speeding

That is generally true, but not in the Royal Parks, where speeding byelaws say 'vehicle' instead of the usual 'motor vehicle.'

 

[jefmcg]

That is generally true, but not in the Royal Parks, where speeding byelaws say 'vehicle' instead of the usual 'motor vehicle.'

This is no longer true

In these Regulations–
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.

according to road.cc, this hasn't been tested in court, people have just copped to the fines.

 

[CopperBrompton]

This is no longer true

In these Regulations–
“vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.

Thanks for that update. I wonder on what basis they are stopping people, then? BBC news reports that Jeremy Vine was stopped this morning for the same thing.

 

[Saluki]

I can track stand faster than that. I suspect this "limit" is totally unenforceable. Park officials and police totally misinterpreting legislation and abusing their powers. For a start there is no legal requirement to have a speedometer on a bike. How about people walking and running faster than 5mph or even dogs on the loose charging around?

I used to skate at a nice steady 12 mph. I guess I'd have been stopped.

 

[Crankarm]

I used to skate at a nice steady 12 mph. I guess I'd have been stopped.

You'd be skating on thin ice if you did it in the park ……………..

 

[DaveReading]

CTC spokes person not that great to be honest.

Perhaps the wheels and frames person wasn't available.

 

[Saluki]

You'd be skating on thin ice if you did it in the park ……………..

I had Rollerblades

 

[jonny jeez]

glad to see riders on shared public routes being stopped for speeding.
parks are for everyone to relax and enjoy without having to worry about highway codes, fast moving vehicles or collisions.
if you want to ride at over 10mph, the you are better sticking to the roads.the speed limits are there for a reason.

 

[CopperBrompton]

10mph wouldn't be an unreasonable speed limit, but 5mph?

 

[Leodis]

10mph wouldn't be an unreasonable speed limit, but 5mph?

WTF 10mph? I might as well get the bus in that case.