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Venod

Eh up
Location
Yorkshire
London Marathon is a race. Most entrants are have no chance or expectation of winning.

Yes but all entrants know its a race and it is officially a race if your good enough you could win, I don't think all entrants to sportive's know that some people are racing, Sportive's are not an official race and don't have a winner.
 

fimm

Veteran
Location
Edinburgh
Those are fabulous photos.

And, they sum up one thing I have noticed about Audax vs Sportives that no one has mentioned yet - not many women do Audax...

(I am quite sure that Audaxers are delighted to have women along, and I felt very welcome on the two Audaxes I have done. I think that the reasons for not many women doing Audax will be very complicated but one I'm going to offer is that a smaller proportion of women (in general - I offer myself as an exception to this) are less interested in pushing ourselves to a limit. I've done triathlons (including Ironman), run marathons, done Sportives and Audaxes, and the questions I'm asking of myself are first "Can I do this?" and then if the answer is yes, the next question is "How fast can I do this?".)

Sorry, that went off into a bit of a ramble...
 

steveindenmark

Legendary Member
I have never seen the London Marathon advertised as a race. It is advertised as a long distance running event. Certain individuals, decide to treat it as a race, but the vast majority do not.

Yes, I know we are splitting hairs and Im just chatting. I am not concerned about the outcome.^_^

Fimm, i used to ask " Can I do it, how fast can I do it". I have run marathons and swam ultra distances.

I am now 57 and have a few broken bones from motorbike accidents. I now ask "Can I get out of bed today". I think Audax is an event which keeps people like me cycling. I am looking forward to an Audax event but would not consider a Sportive.

For younger riders, just remember, time passes very quickly and your Sportive career can be very short lived. What will you turn to then?
 
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Yes but all entrants know its a race and it is officially a race if your good enough you could win, I don't think all entrants to sportive's know that some people are racing, Sportive's are not an official race and don't have a winner.
Sorry, we aren't talking about sportives in the case, we are talking about The Transcontinental. Which is definitely a race
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w00hoo_kent

One of the 64K
And, they sum up one thing I have noticed about Audax vs Sportives that no one has mentioned yet - not many women do Audax...
Also an age thing. At 45 I should look at Juniors. :-)

It looks like a niche hobby thing. Being in a few the 'mainly die-hards who've done it since god's dog was a puppy' look is familiar. Like it or not things that take most of, or more than, a day are less popular now. Things that are weird but haven't become retro cool (is the DunRun much different to an Audax?) are dwindling. The gender divide seems to follow that to. Sweeping generalisation, men are more likely to do things that they think might make them look like nobbers than women are.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
I th
Those are fabulous photos.

And, they sum up one thing I have noticed about Audax vs Sportives that no one has mentioned yet - not many women do Audax...

(I am quite sure that Audaxers are delighted to have women along, and I felt very welcome on the two Audaxes I have done. I think that the reasons for not many women doing Audax will be very complicated but one I'm going to offer is that a smaller proportion of women (in general - I offer myself as an exception to this) are less interested in pushing ourselves to a limit. I've done triathlons (including Ironman), run marathons, done Sportives and Audaxes, and the questions I'm asking of myself are first "Can I do this?" and then if the answer is yes, the next question is "How fast can I do this?".)

Sorry, that went off into a bit of a ramble...
i thought the photos were fantastic, and the mix of emotions on finishing, though one guy looks as though he is about to start rather than have completed the event!

As for women, for me it would be a time away from the family and too big a distance, perhaps in the future as mine fledge, I should try a shorter one. I'm more tempted by them than a Sportive.
 

Venod

Eh up
Location
Yorkshire
Sorry, we aren't talking about sportives in the case, we are talking about The Transcontinental. Which is definitely a race

Ah I see, thats what you get with just skimming through the thread :okay:
 

Tim Hall

Guest
Location
Crawley
What's the 50/50 Rule ?
I think it is/was a rule that no more than 50% of the points you gain (1 point per 100km) could come from permanent or diy events as opposed to calendar events and count towards the championship. Steve Abraham (currently doing the One Year Time Trial) did 405 points in 2007, all (l think) as "perms" but couldn't be awarded the championship. The discussions in audax land about this rule stretch long into the night and make "big end" vs "little end" look like small beer.
 
The Great Escape thing looks good. I've done just over 100 miles twice but hopefully can stick it out to 120 miles.

Is it yearly?
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
The Great Escape thing looks good. I've done just over 100 miles twice but hopefully can stick it out to 120 miles.

Is it yearly?


Yes.
It's a great route with very little climbing.
Though I probrably won't be doing it next year as it's has more of a sportive vibe then an audax vibe. As it's arranged by a roadie club, there are a good few chain gangs on the ride. (Some not having a clue as to how to navigate an audax).

The lack of free tea was not good either.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
The Great Escape thing looks good. I've done just over 100 miles twice but hopefully can stick it out to 120 miles.

Is it yearly?
Yes, but that's not a 100% guarantee that it will be run next year.

I did it this year and it was indeed good. And flat :smile: and convenient for me as well.

There was some dissatisfied grumbling on the internets afterwards that it was rather sportivey and unaudaxey. But that didn't prevent the supply of prodigious quantities of flapjack at one of the controls, even if the beard quotient was a bit low.
 
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