Sports that shouldn't be in the Olympics

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swansonj

Guru
Another vote for the cycling road race. On the basis that the medals ought to be vaguely predictable - in most sports we know that,whilst there's always a random element on the day, the top spots are likely to be occupied by the people who are best. In the road race, it seems to me almost impossible to predict a winner out of say twenty riders. It makes for much more exciting watching but devalued medals.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
I'll start...
Tennis
Golf
Football
Rugby 7s
Fencing

Golf probably, but why the others, especially the Rugby?

anything done to music or has points for choreography, floor gymnastics, synchronised swimming.

The judges have to see that they are following the rules for a specific routine though, otherwise, what's the point? Also the competitors should know the rules, so it isn't as if they are being subjected to anything they don't understand.

This isn't quite what you are talking about, but the thing I remember hearing about syncronised swimming is that, they often look like they are standing on the bottom of the pool at times, but they are doing anything but. The amount of strength and ability required to make it look like they are just nocholantly dancing without much effort, sometimes with their bodies quite high out of the water is quite something seemingly.

Go to a swimming pool and try to get as high as possible out of the water at the deep end and hold that possition for long enough without looking like you are making an effort (without holding on to anything I mean).

For that alone, keep!

Does that include synchronised diving?
I watched it for the first time last night and found it absolutely amazing and fascinating to watch. The skill and the dedication that must go into training for what they do, all for a couple of seconds of diving into a pool. It was really good to watch.

Exactly!

Anything judged, rather than measured....

Anything that involves a panel of judges scoring the sport. To subjective as each member of the panel will all score slightly different.

I do wonder about the subjectivity of events that are won or lost on Judges' scores.
Another vote for binning anything judged. Except the diving cos those cossies look so good

It depends on what it is though, if it is routine say, the judges are there so see who does it the best to the set criteria, I doubt it is just a bunch of people all going

'Ooohh, that looks nice!'

'Ohhh, I like their costume, and that make up, ooohhhhh!!'

That said, I have wondered how they decide the numbered cards sometimes. I guess personal choice must come into it in some small, albeit professional way, maybe it is just how they interpret the rules, but I imagine they will all be singing from the same hymnsheet, and competitors almost always know when they haven't done as well as they could have anyway, so it is not like it is just a random score or anything. At the level they are competing at, the competitors will 'know'.
They know the rules and are not being subjected to something they shouldn't already know intimately, inside out and back to front, so what's the problem?


Also, if you have enough judges then minor things cancel themselves out anyway (unless they are all a bunch of ignorant twats of course).

Get rid of all swimming except freestyle. What's the point of a race where you don't go as fast as you are capable of. I still reckon they should add a bear to each event though.

Get rid of the 100 Meters running too then.... That Usain Bolt ruined it by not running as fast as he could have!! :laugh:

Another vote for dropping judged events here. Unfortunately, the Olympics is so lucrative that the sport of jumping off a plank wearing very little is likely to carry on. I'd also drop events which are basically team games.

That would include some cycling events though and we can't be having that you know!!:ohmy:

As for the judged events bit, see above, but they all should know the rules.

If I were the IOC I'd take a cold hard look at extending the franchise. They're beginning to run up against the problem that the Olympics are run only for the benefit of the IOC, not for the athletes or the host cities. At the moment there is one monstrously big event and one manageable event every four years. Why not aim for four manageable events every four years? Off the top of my head, that could be:
  • Winter games, as now
  • Indoor games - things like basketball, gymnastics, and track cycling
  • Outdoor team games - things like hockey, football, cricket and rugby
  • Blue riband events - mainly individual endeavours - athletics, swimming, archery
A really ambitious IOC could look to rebrand World Cups as "Olympic World Cup", giving smaller sports like cricket (T20 probably) a world profile they don't yet have.

Interesting, but how practical would it really be??

About as meaningless as the diving and gymnastics for me. Or rugby, for that matter. I don't think I'm stupid, but I just can't tell what on earth is going on.

I remember talking to a seemingly intelligent guy who told me

'That he didn't like Rugby because he couldn't understand it'

Sorry, but what the f*** is there not to understand about it?? :wacko:
I have brain damage and even I can work it out!

My only reservation about the wall climbing is that I'm sure some people will only watch for the ones who fall off, although I suppose the length of the scream as the competitor plunged to their death might form part of the marking system. And the posthumous gold medal is awarded to .......

Seriously though, I can see it encouraging kids and other idiots to go out and climb things, marking a rise in accidents and deaths.....
 
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There was a documentary on somewhere recently (Yesterday TV, perhaps) making a quite persuasive argument that the Nazi Olympics started the trend for ever-bigger, ever-showier televised games which finally peaked in Beijing, with the IOC doing what it could to encourage the dictatorship in that way.
Yeah. Once you find out that the torch relay was invented by the Nazis it seems obvious. The neo-classical ritual belongs with grand architecture of the "Third Reich".

Also this
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(1968, height of the civil rights movement) was "violent breach" of Olympic principles that got US threatened with expulsion, while these
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(1936) were AOK.

Notes:
  1. The white guy in the first photo is Australian, who borrowed a badge from another African American to support the other athletes when he found out what they were protesting, and in personal protest against the White Australia policy - that's why they are all wearing the same badge. He wasn't sanctioned by the IOC, but was vilified by the Australian press. Sadly, until now I had never heard of Peter Norman he doesn't even have a wikipedia page. I may remedy that later.
  2. The athlete in the last photo was Jewish(?!), and returned to Germany for the Olympics as dressing to show they weren't anti-semetic.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
Does that include synchronised diving?
I watched it for the first time last night and found it absolutely amazing and fascinating to watch. The skill and the dedication that must go into training for what they do, all for a couple of seconds of diving into a pool. It was really good to watch.
I heard the commentator say that daly and Goodfellow have been living together to better synchronise themselves!!

Now that's commitment...from Lance!!
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I used to be a purist or fascist about 'proper' sports but now I've reached the age of reason, I don't give a toss.
If enough people like doing whatever it is, enough people like watching it, what does it matter?
There's another 7 channels of Olympic sports or the Off button on the remote.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I always find threads like this to be rather childish and pathetic as people give their quite frankly laughable at best judgements on why something isn't a sport, or what ever other terminology they use.

Seriously, if it annoys you that much (firstly, get a life), join the IOC, rise through the ranks and then change it.

No?

Shut up then!
Yawn, not this old chestnut again!

Golf probably, but why the others, especially the Rugby?



The judges have to see that they are following the rules for a specific routine though, otherwise, what's the point? Also the competitors should know the rules, so it isn't as if they are being subjected to anything they don't understand.

This isn't quite what you are talking about, but the thing I remember hearing about syncronised swimming is that, they often look like they are standing on the bottom of the pool at times, but they are doing anything but. The amount of strength and ability required to make it look like they are just nocholantly dancing without much effort, sometimes with their bodies quite high out of the water is quite something seemingly.

Go to a swimming pool and try to get as high as possible out of the water at the deep end and hold that possition for long enough without looking like you are making an effort (without holding on to anything I mean).

For that alone, keep!



Exactly!








It depends on what it is though, if it is routine say, the judges are there so see who does it the best to the set criteria, I doubt it is just a bunch of people all going

'Ooohh, that looks nice!'

'Ohhh, I like their costume, and that make up, ooohhhhh!!'

That said, I have wondered how they decide the numbered cards sometimes. I guess personal choice must come into it in some small, albeit professional way, maybe it is just how they interpret the rules, but I imagine they will all be singing from the same hymnsheet, and competitors almost always know when they haven't done as well as they could have anyway, so it is not like it is just a random score or anything. At the level they are competing at, the competitors will 'know'.
They know the rules and are not being subjected to something they shouldn't already know intimately, inside out and back to front, so what's the problem?


Also, if you have enough judges then minor things cancel themselves out anyway (unless they are all a bunch of ignorant twats of course).



Get rid of the 100 Meters running too then.... That Usain Bolt ruined it by not running as fast as he could have!! :laugh:



That would include some cycling events though and we can't be having that you know!!:ohmy:

As for the judged events bit, see above, but they all should know the rules.



Interesting, but how practical would it really be??



I remember talking to a seemingly intelligent guy who told me

'That he didn't like Rugby because he couldn't understand it'

Sorry, but what the f*** is there not to understand about it?? :wacko:
I have brain damage and even I can work it out!



Seriously though, I can see it encouraging kids and other idiots to go out and climb things, marking a rise in accidents and deaths.....
Ahem!
 
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Fnaar

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I always find threads like this to be rather childish and pathetic as people give their quite frankly laughable at best judgements on why something isn't a sport, or what ever other terminology they use.

Seriously, if it annoys you that much (firstly, get a life), join the IOC, rise through the ranks and then change it.

No?

Shut up then!
I only meant it as a laugh. I admire the skill and dedication of all. Especially the beach volleyball.
 

Mad Doug Biker

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I only meant it as a laugh. I admire the skill and dedication of all. Especially the beach volleyball.

I know, but people really DO seem to take it seriously, I have seen this every four years in various different forums over the years to know that people really do get properly wound up about it!

Just look at the flap people get into over cycling, so, translate that into something strange people only see every 4 years and all their stupid prejudices come to the fore.

I play Curling, do you have any idea the amount of crap I have too hear over it?? I imagine it is the same for a lot of other sports, so yes, it might be a joke, but sometimes, you never quite know. :okay::whistle:
 
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