State of the nations health

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twowheelsgood

Senior Member
Try living abroad and then visiting the UK again. Really British people (in general) just look ill, even the slim ones. The thing is people adjust "what is normal" in their minds over time. Most people are overweight, look at a 1950s newsreel of a normal street and it's obvious.

Another shock coming home is the sheer amount of processed, package foods in supermarkets. The biscuit and cake aisle with it's brightly coloured packaging makes me feel sick just visiting it.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Arch said:
Cross posting!:laugh:

What you angry about?
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
twowheelsgood said:
Try living abroad and then visiting the UK again. Really British people (in general) just look ill, even the slim ones. The thing is people adjust "what is normal" in their minds over time. Most people are overweight, look at a 1950s newsreel of a normal street and it's obvious.

Another shock coming home is the sheer amount of processed, package foods in supermarkets. The biscuit and cake aisle with it's brightly coloured packaging makes me feel sick just visiting it.

Absolutely agree. As I blatt back and forth just to European countries you quickly realise what an unhealthy nation we look...
 

XmisterIS

Purveyor of fine nonsense
twowheelsgood said:
Try living abroad and then visiting the UK again. Really British people (in general) just look ill, even the slim ones. The thing is people adjust "what is normal" in their minds over time. Most people are overweight, look at a 1950s newsreel of a normal street and it's obvious.

Another shock coming home is the sheer amount of processed, package foods in supermarkets. The biscuit and cake aisle with it's brightly coloured packaging makes me feel sick just visiting it.

I totally agree with you there about most people being overweight, but if you go Holland or Germany, they're alomst as bad as us! (being from Germanic stock as we all are!). The Germans are just as fat as us. I think it's because back in Ye Olden Dayes, the Germanic people lived on a diet that was necessary to get us through the harsh, cold winters and alow us to do the extensive manual work that we had to do in order to survive - life was short, cold, hard and brutal. Nowadays, however, although most people live in centrally heated houses and have engine-powered transport, they still stick to the old, heavy, calorie-rich diet that kept their ancestors alive - with the result that many people have gotten fat.

It's also exacerbated by corporate food culture - for example brown pasta is more expensive than white pasta, even though it has been processed less. And when you stop at a smaller motorway service station, you'll be hard pressed to find anything healthy/natural to eat.
 

twowheelsgood

Senior Member
XmisterIS, that's true but somehow they still manage to look reasonably healthy. I think it has something to do with the relationship with the outdoors.

I'm as guilty as anyone. I left the UK a decade ago now. Before that I worked in an office and commuted by car, all fairly typical. The first thing I realised was that I'd spent my time at university and work barely noticing the seasons as they went by, except for the fact it may or may not have been dark when I arrived at the pub or left work. Here (Switzerland) still has a real relationship with the outdoors, not just activity-wise but even still eating seasonally despite the fact you can get imported foods. Life still maintains that rhythm and the year has a pattern, it's comforting and feels somehow "right" to be part of the world around you.

I did cycle in the UK but nowhere near as much as I do here. I was a bit overweight but considered myself reasonably fit. It was a real shock when I first went out with work colleagues for a mountain bike ride. These were guys in their 40s, 50s and early 60s and didn't do any particular exercise and worked in an office. Their basic fitness levels meant they had no problem at all punting a mountain bike along at 20-25kph for most of the day - I struggled, despite being in my late 20s at the time.

Imagine doing that in a typical office in the UK? Apart from the fact you'd have any number of health-related excuses for not doing it in the first place, i doubt it'd last half an hour.

Our whole way of living in the UK is killing us or at least ensuring that we don't get the most out of life. This is actually what is stopping me returning, despite the fact I miss my parents who are knocking-on a bit now. I could very easily see myself falling back into those ways. I also want a family and for them to grow up with this kind of lifestyle as normal and regard things like cycling as a normal part of life and not the occupation of oddballs, hippies and fitness freaks (or even specifically as "a leisure activity).

Britain saddens me a bit now actually, especially when I see the health of people I knew decline through their own actions. I know you can't live anyone else's life for them, but I'd really like them to have had the opportunities to see things from the point of view I've had.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Channel 4 10pm tonight a very depressing programme about the World's fattest families. Tonga, Mexico and the US. I doubt that African countries will be among the line up ....... Prepared to be shocked by how much some people troff. "He's a big boy, he's always liked his foood ....." Well, salads he hasn't :laugh:.
 
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