Angelfishsolo
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Steve (Changes) Jobs
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Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
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I think he and his company are both amazing. My happiest memories from my time in the IT industry are from when I did Apple Mac support and E-mail administration.
ian turner
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There's a whole load of hyperbole about Jobs claiming he changed the world. Which indicates an American style grasp of geography. Also a belief that he has improved the world by producing luxury objects that make consuming product easier. He was the consumate salesman.
I think that's a little harsh - ok he hasn't discovered the secret to world peace, but it's not just about sales. The technologist skills and understanding of the public's wants means the music industry, the mobile device and phone industries and PC or tablet market places, to name just a few, are fundamentally different now.
You might consider that frippery in the wider scheme of things, but I would suggest his abilities were a bit greater than just about selling some stuff.
Apple I, Next, Pixar, Apple II........ a string of success stories that go way beyond just being good at sales.
StuAff
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+1. Steve J never was a hardware guy like the other Steve- Woz- but to dismiss him as a salesman or his products as 'fashion accessories' is hardly fair. He was a driving force behind Apple's early years (Apples I-III, the Lisa and the first Macs were most emphatically innovative and groundbreaking), and when he left the company in '86 it continued to enjoy success for the best part of a decade, despite a dwindling market share, confusing product range, and a succession of increasingly poor CEOs. When he came back to Apple, as first advisor, then iCEO, then permanent CEO, he brought with him a brilliant software engineering team from NeXT, along with the basis of what became OS X. As for the company, he turned it into the most successful in its field. Where Microsoft, IBM, HP et al have suffered a series of setbacks, Apple's barely put a foot wrong. And the team Steve's put in place is more than capable of continuing that success. He doesn't have the best of reputations for management style, but he has quite clearly got the knack of finding the best people for the task and giving them what they need to do it.
So what about Pixar?
ian turner
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Founded by George Lucas, taken to success by John Lasseter, bought by Steve, sold by Steve for a percentage of the Mouse Empire.
The vast majority of the worlds population don't own an Apple product (or for that matter anything influenced by them as most of the mobile phones in the third world aren't smart phones). Apple were good at exploiting existing technology that most people were unaware of.
Angelfishsolo
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Just to point out DOS 1.0 was CPM. Bought for pennies and modified to make the internal drive C: and the external A: instead of the reverse.
ian turner
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Quite. Mass ownership of pcs was a result of corporate lawyers bungling things at IBM rather than the achievement of any computer company.
OSx is a Unix derivative.
The mouse was invented in the 60s. Xerox developers amongst others were early pioneers of GUI based systems.
Apple made things that sold. They did not invent anything original as such.
Tim Berners lee has probably touched the lives of more folks than Apple and without having an eye on the bottom line.
Apple create desirable objects they don't invent the less desirable prototypes
OSx is a Unix derivative.
The mouse was invented in the 60s. Xerox developers amongst others were early pioneers of GUI based systems.
Apple made things that sold. They did not invent anything original as such.
Tim Berners lee has probably touched the lives of more folks than Apple and without having an eye on the bottom line.
Apple create desirable objects they don't invent the less desirable prototypes
Pixar was founded in 1979 as part of Lucas Films. It was acquired in 1986 for $5m by Jobs who became its CEO and Chairman. Its first feature film Toy Story wasn't until 1995. It was sold in 2006 to Disney for $7.4Bn. Lasseter's contributions to making Pixar the success it is all happened under Job's ownership, not Lucas'. And what saved and made the company was the deal it did with Disney to make Toy Story but also that Jobs hung in there funding it for ten years until it made it.
Seems to me that Lasseter is to Pixar as Ives is to iApple.
DOS was QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) written by Tim Paterson and licensed by Bill Gates for $75k who renamed MS-DOS and sold it to IBM for their PC-DOS. CP/M was owned by Digital Research and it was because agreement couldn't be reached with IBM (who wanted CP/M for their PC project) that IBM turned to Bill Gates and MS-DOS.
DOS was not CP/M
Angelfishsolo
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You are correct. Memory failed me again. Hands up.
