Sturmey 3 speed , adding extra gears

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Location
Shropshire
Hello all,
I'm thinking of an old folder ( Raleigh 20 or similar) which I would use to cycle from one side of the river Severn to the other , down a steep hill and then up another to the other side, leaving my car on the other side ( It's an 16 ish mile trip to the other side by car and I work that side of the river , 25 miles away) this would be no problem by just down gearing the thing so I could use it to go up hill but if I wanted to use it else where what would be my options for expanding the gear ratios using maybe a front Derailleur or any other method ?

Thanks all
 

figbat

Slippery scientist
I’ve seen someone fit a second sprocket onto the hub with a small derailleur. You can add a cassette to the hub but then you need to spread the frame. A front derailleur may also work but you’ll also need a chain tensioner.
 

Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
Or to buy a folder with derailleur gears. All my bikes are Sturmey Archer 3-speeds but I wouldn't recommend one to somebody who had to pedal up a steep hill on a regular basis.
 
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Bottom bracket internal 2 speed.
ATS Speed drive is manufactured under license of Schlumpf Innovations GmbH, (Switzerland)
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
Just buy a folder with a 6/7 speed derailleur, plenty about.

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This Raleigh Stowaway (7 speed and V brakes) is £50 on Gumtree.
 

simongt

Guru
Location
Norwich
Of course, back in the 'good old days', Cyclo did a three speed derailleur combined with a three speed hub gear giving nine speeds with one chainwheel.
Mildly surprised that no-one has re-explored that arrangement since. :whistle: After all, the Brompton 6 speed works on a similar setup.
 

tyred

Legendary Member
Location
Ireland
It's easy enough to put two dished sprockets back to back and use a basic derailleur. I did it myself for fun on my old Kalkhoff.

I can't remember the maths I did of the top of my head but I have a 3 tooth difference between the two sprockets which gains you a lower gear and fills the gap between the others.

Unless you like playing about with stuff like that, just fit a larger sprocket to lower the gear range TBH. My Kalkhoff works well enough in practice but the change sequence is complicated and it's a lot of complications for not much real benefit.
 
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