MacB
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there are some valid points in her article, but I don't like the delivery and I don't agree with the banner or conclusion.
Sunday Times Article
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HJ
Cycling in Scotland
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Just another good reason not to buy the Sunday Times...
I hadn't actually got to that bit in my Sunday Times yesterday. I feel that it is a shame that this poor article (poor because it is one sided and rather ill informed) is allowed in a national paper. Surely having been given the opportunity to write an article you would think the author could have researched it somewhat more comprehensively rather then pop out for an afternoon pedal! The Sunday Times should ask for their money back!! Or was it a slow news Week!!!
I was amused to read how concerned the author was about the size of her calf muscles... I take it she never wears high heels?
I also find this a poor article as she has said the odd good thing in the past, for example:
“Healthier diets will not provide a quick fix, but the taxes from junk food could go straight to the coffers of the local NHS organisations, and that would do something fast to ease the pain of the inevitable cuts to come”
And early in the same article she said:
“Second, the polluter must pay, as the Greens always say.”
So I think we may have someone here who doesn’t like getting sweaty…. she's not my type then!
I was amused to read how concerned the author was about the size of her calf muscles... I take it she never wears high heels?
I also find this a poor article as she has said the odd good thing in the past, for example:
“Healthier diets will not provide a quick fix, but the taxes from junk food could go straight to the coffers of the local NHS organisations, and that would do something fast to ease the pain of the inevitable cuts to come”
And early in the same article she said:
“Second, the polluter must pay, as the Greens always say.”
So I think we may have someone here who doesn’t like getting sweaty…. she's not my type then!
clarion
Guru
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Glad to see the Murdoch press supporting cycling, like Sky...
Aw, come on - what do you expect? It's a lazy opinion piece, in the same paper that employs the laziest and most opinionated of objectionable oxygen-wasters, Jeremy Clarkson.
Aw, come on - what do you expect? It's a lazy opinion piece, in the same paper that employs the laziest and most opinionated of objectionable oxygen-wasters, Jeremy Clarkson.
OP
OP
Origamist
Legendary Member
An antidote to the ST piece:
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/121492/I-d-forgotten-cycling-could-be-such-fun
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/121492/I-d-forgotten-cycling-could-be-such-fun
PBancroft
Senior Member
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Origamist said:
Actually a rather well written little article.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
Good peice Orgamist at first I thought it was going to be one of those too scared for road things but it goes on wellOrigamist said:
Lizban
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magnatom said:Mmmm.
I propose a new article...
Cyclists like Positive Cycling Article, but Hate Negative Cycling Article...Shocker!
- Kinda the point I made earlier - hence they are opinion articles! You do wonder about some of the reactions that you get on here.stoptherock
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It's not really a negative story, it's a lazy op-ed piece that doesn't really have a point.
It's certainly not the worst article about cyclists:
Shortly after using Nick Freeman ('Mr Loophole') to get
her off a serious driving charge Emma Parker-Bowles, writing in The
Sun in 2006, called for the "humane extermination" of cyclists.
Similarly rabid comments could be added from a wide range of people
such as Tony Parsons ("I have always thought that it should be
cyclists that are chained to lamp -posts, and not their bikes...
Bicycles are like masturbation - something you should grow out of")
David Thomas of The Daily Mail ("Why I really hate cyclists" being
typical of his oeuvre );
Jeremy Clarkson (who wrote in The Sun that cyclists should stop at red
lights otherwise "if I'm coming the other way, I will run you down,
for fun".
On the other hand stopping would also seem to be a bad policy as he
added that if any cyclists were to stop in front of him at lights he
would "set off at normal speed and you will be crushed under my
wheels" concluding "You are a guest on roads that are paid for by
motorists so if we cut you up, shut up");
Bryan Appleyard (whose "One day I'll kill a lycra lout" was yet
another anti-cycling piece printed in The Times );
M.P. Kate Hoey ("The real menace on our roads are selfish, aggressive,
law breaking and infuriatingly smug lycra louts" was the Mail On
Sunday headline which summarised her rant.
Hoey also confessed to
using her vehicle as a weapon to bully cyclists off the roads.);
Jasper Gerard of The Daily Mail ("With the possible exception of Osama
Bin Laden, the greatest terrorist threat facing this country is from
cyclists.");
Damian Whitworth (motoring editor of The Times who described cyclists
as "a common pestilence" and argued that the lycra-wearing cyclist
should "pedal off to a shrink" in order to "explore the reasons for
his perversion at his own leisure and expense");
Jeremy Vine; Andrew Marr; Jon Gaunt; Nigel Havers; author Ruth
Brandon; Shelia Hancock; Nina Myskow; Bonnie Greer (who has said of
cyclists "they are PESTS, they are RODENTS".
Mmmm now who else was it who described human beings as being
'rodents'?) and so on ad-infinitum.
http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=857056
It's certainly not the worst article about cyclists:
Shortly after using Nick Freeman ('Mr Loophole') to get
her off a serious driving charge Emma Parker-Bowles, writing in The
Sun in 2006, called for the "humane extermination" of cyclists.
Similarly rabid comments could be added from a wide range of people
such as Tony Parsons ("I have always thought that it should be
cyclists that are chained to lamp -posts, and not their bikes...
Bicycles are like masturbation - something you should grow out of")
David Thomas of The Daily Mail ("Why I really hate cyclists" being
typical of his oeuvre );
Jeremy Clarkson (who wrote in The Sun that cyclists should stop at red
lights otherwise "if I'm coming the other way, I will run you down,
for fun".
On the other hand stopping would also seem to be a bad policy as he
added that if any cyclists were to stop in front of him at lights he
would "set off at normal speed and you will be crushed under my
wheels" concluding "You are a guest on roads that are paid for by
motorists so if we cut you up, shut up");
Bryan Appleyard (whose "One day I'll kill a lycra lout" was yet
another anti-cycling piece printed in The Times );
M.P. Kate Hoey ("The real menace on our roads are selfish, aggressive,
law breaking and infuriatingly smug lycra louts" was the Mail On
Sunday headline which summarised her rant.
Hoey also confessed to
using her vehicle as a weapon to bully cyclists off the roads.);
Jasper Gerard of The Daily Mail ("With the possible exception of Osama
Bin Laden, the greatest terrorist threat facing this country is from
cyclists.");
Damian Whitworth (motoring editor of The Times who described cyclists
as "a common pestilence" and argued that the lycra-wearing cyclist
should "pedal off to a shrink" in order to "explore the reasons for
his perversion at his own leisure and expense");
Jeremy Vine; Andrew Marr; Jon Gaunt; Nigel Havers; author Ruth
Brandon; Shelia Hancock; Nina Myskow; Bonnie Greer (who has said of
cyclists "they are PESTS, they are RODENTS".
Mmmm now who else was it who described human beings as being
'rodents'?) and so on ad-infinitum.
Lizban
New Member
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- Blackheath, London
Now those are worth getting het up about!
stoptherock
New Member
Replace the word 'cyclists' with 'blacks' or 'jews' and you get the idea.
Now, I'm not suggesting people read Clarkson and rush out to attack a cyclist, but we know such attacks happen, and we know that when a barmaid leaves the Rovers Granada TV get Cvs sent in as applications. Some people really are stupid enough to act on such threats.
Now, I'm not suggesting people read Clarkson and rush out to attack a cyclist, but we know such attacks happen, and we know that when a barmaid leaves the Rovers Granada TV get Cvs sent in as applications. Some people really are stupid enough to act on such threats.
Crankarm
Guru
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- Nr Cambridge
Origamist said:
It's a bit elementary though........... but then again it is aimed ar DE readers I s'pose.
I know it's better than the usual cycle hating ranters' articles but there seems to be no informative voice from any corner of mainstream journos AFAIK. It is either this rabid response or mickey mouse cycling on holiday at Centre Parcs, great though Thetford Forest and Centre Parcs are.
The cycling mags seem to have given up on everyday day cycling and are just brochures for selling bikes and racing which are great in themselves but a bit limited if you've bought your bike and are a mere mortal or don't intend to compete. There is a bit of a vacuum, unless you include forums such as CC or bikeradar but then you are talking to the converted or the occasional fruitcake.
Wheeledweenie
Über Member
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- Hanwell, west London
The area she was cycling in has some rubbish cyclists but what a crap article. All negative and nothing positive. Surely someone who confessed she hadn't cycled in years should've practised off-road before setting off. I wonder if there's a blog somewhere ranting about a woman on a borrowed Brompton wobbling around Kensington...........