Swindon's Claim to Shame

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the whole idea of a punishment was that it caused you some hardship?

It will have caused considerable financial hardship.

My kid brother was forking out £8500 per year car insurance for a lot fewer points on his license and I think it might have been for the most basic cover.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
If they were drink driving we would say they should loose their licence whether they needed it for work or not ... how is it different? (Apart from the fact it is more acceptable to society in general).
 

al78

Guru
Location
Horsham
If someone's whole life depends on driving, they ought to do it better then. Sod them, if they can't see the consequences.

Although if there are dependents involved, that will complicate matters somewhat.

Arguably not fair that the wife and kids suffer for something which is not their fault.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
Although if there are dependents involved, that will complicate matters somewhat.

Arguably not fair that the wife and kids suffer for something which is not their fault.

Shouldn't really make any difference.
If the husband (and we are assuming the traditional family model here) were into theft with GBH and was put in prison it would be the same hardship for the rest of the family.
You don't see the courts letting people off their punishment for those reasons. Though maybe they do.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Although if there are dependents involved, that will complicate matters somewhat.

Arguably not fair that the wife and kids suffer for something which is not their fault.

But as NT points out, that doesn't give people a blanket excuse for wrongdoing.

If the wife had any sense, she'd have done something about it before it got to the stage of 39 points. If someone cared so little about their family's future as to keep offending, I wouldn't want anything to do with them.

Of course, once the person gets off once at 12 points, I guess they assume they will get off every time. Hence the need for consistent punishment from the start.
 

Amanda P

Legendary Member
some , but not GRAVE financial hardship

But the point about the points system is that you get loads of second chances. To clock up 12 points, you either have to have done something spectacularly stupid (and got caught doing it) or to have done something slightly less stupid more than once (and got caught each time). No actual punishment (besides perhaps an utterly derisory fine) is imposed until you reach the magic 12 points.

So if you manage to get caught more than once, you can hardly complain you didn't know what the consequences would be.

Look, motor vehicles are dangerous things. We wouldn't tolerate people going around in public with other bits of dangerous equipment (chainsaws, knives, firearms) and being irresponsible with them with no punishment. So why is a car any different?

If I was irresponsible with my shotgun and got caught, the police would make sure I never owned one again - and quite rightly. But I'm allowed umpteen second chances with my two-tonne pickup.:huh:
 
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