T Mobile reduce data limit

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Dan B

Disengaged member
That's why my next phone contract will probably be with aaisp, who have no unlimited (except for small print) anything, charge a flat rate per byte, don't sting me for extra charges when I go over some arbitrary amount that "normal people don't usually exceed" and don't presume to tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing with it.

http://www.zdnet.co....-fail-10021476/ is a very good summary of how I feel about the whole thing

(Virgin piggyback on the t-mobile network, or did when I was with them - are you sure their unlimited isn't also about to change to "differently unlimited"?)
 

the snail

Guru
Location
Chippenham
I expect that they will probably use a crude bandwidth measure rather than trying to actually work out what you are actually downloading. I think the basic problem is that there is insufficient bandwidth available to meet demand, and overselling of products - i.e. they want to limit usage and still market services as broadband.
 

Hop3y

Padiham Commuter
Location
Padiham, Burnley
I'm with Virgin on Unlimited...but when you examine the small print it really means 25mb a day upto 3gb a month.
Unlimited is always a marketting lie.
I've been on unlimited for 20 months and have never gone over my quota. I use it for works email, my site and have every possible app under the sun. Be hard to go over the cap I think.
 
I've got two t-mobile phone contracts, £7.50 a month each. I'm pretty annoyed at this to be honest as the reason I got the second one was because of the 3gb usage allowance. I'll definitely look into cancelling at least one of them over them breaching the terms of the contract. Time to complain, then contact CIFAS if that gets nowhere. Have fun people.
 

Norm

Guest
I think you'll have little hope of getting anywhere on breach of contract, as they'll have small print which allows them to change most anything as long as they give 30 days' notice.
 

Bman

Guru
Location
Herts.
I am agog to hear how they plan to restrict "downloading" but not "surfing", since there's no way they can tell the difference.

But I have not had "the text" so if they do cap me (I'm on an android tariff, currently 3GB) on Feb 1st they are in clear breach of contract and I will be cancelling immediately.


They use transparent proxies. There is also some very clever networking kit about nowadays.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
They use transparent proxies. There is also some very clever networking kit about nowadays.

Very well, so how do they distinguish between streaming an mp3 and downloading it for later playback? Or a pdf, or an images, or ...

All they have to go on is the mime type (or the magic numbers). There's no indication in http headers to say what I plan to do with the file once the bits have arrived
 

Norm

Guest
can they just do away with the unlimitrd internet at the drop of a hat.
Yes, they can. As said above, "unlimited" is a meaningless term in the marketing of mobile phones anyway.

However, I use mine a fair bit for surfing, emails, downloads etc and still don't get to 20% of my allowance.

If you were using the mobile network to listen to high quality music, you might get close but, despite the many protestations about the limits put on "unlimited" access, I don't think anyone has said that they have exceeded the allowances if it is just used for phone browsing.
 

The Jogger

Legendary Member
Location
Spain
Yes Norm, I'd probably be mainly using it for my addiction CC

Yes, they can. As said above, "unlimited" is a meaningless term in the marketing of mobile phones anyway.

However, I use mine a fair bit for surfing, emails, downloads etc and still don't get to 20% of my allowance.

If you were using the mobile network to listen to high quality music, you might get close but, despite the many protestations about the limits put on "unlimited" access, I don't think anyone has said that they have exceeded the allowances if it is just used for phone browsing.
 

The Jogger

Legendary Member
Location
Spain
Hey Norm, I was just reading about your phone on the other thread. Is three a good network not sure if I get it were I live. The phone sounds like a good one and good deal.
 

Norm

Guest
All mobile networks can be very patchy and I think it's difficult to recommend one particular network, especially knowing (roughly) where you live as the geography around The Downs can push the signal from max to none in just a few paces.

For general use, I reckon I can offer a comparison as my work phone is Vodaphone, my last work phone was Orange, before Three we were on T-Mobile for about 5 years when I was working in Germany... I've used everything except O2. :becool:

I would say that Three is as good as the others in general, and better than them for the exact location of my house.

One thing that you should find, though, is that you can get a "cooling off period" on any mobile contract. I think we had either 10 days or 14 days to return the phone for full credit if we found there was little or no signal where we needed it. Ask in the shop, though, something like that was a deal breaker for me and it might be for you too.
 
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