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Mr Pig

Mr Pig

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User1314 said:
Unless, of course, we're talking Celine Dion.

Well yes, there are limits to everything ;0)
 

PaulB

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Mr Pig said:
songs like 'Shine' and 'Million Love Songs' are very good songs none the less.

It just ignorance to suggest that someone like Gary Barlow is not a highly intelligent and talented individual.

No, they are NOT very good songs at all.

It's a bit rich of you to state it can only be ignorance to suggest he is not a highly intellingent and talented individual. I think there's ample evidence to the contrary. I'd further venture to suggest he's simply very lucky to have been given the opportunity of being in a manufactured group at a time of famine on the boy-band front and has stretched out what miniscule talent he does possess to breaking point. It's a sad indictment on the contemporary music scene that this band still exist.
 
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PaulB said:
It's a sad indictment on the contemporary music scene that this band still exist.

You could say that it's a sad reflection on the people buying the music but not really the industry. A heck of a lot of people like Take That, they sell records. They exist because they are wanted. Personally I too would like to see better quality music more popular but what can you do? People like what they like.

Take That's music makes a lot of people smile, sing and feel good. There isn't anything wrong with that.
 

PaulB

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Mr Pig said:
They exist because they are wanted.

...or maybe because of a lack of an alternative? People can only buy what's available and there's no doubt that what's available is dictated and manipulated to make money, not music. You're not seriously telling me that these four (five) lads would have got together independently without some pop svengali choosing them on the basis of their looks and dancing ability?
 
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What difference does it make how they got together? You think that Motown groups were never put together using similar criteria? Who cares? Some men meet their wives at a night club, some through a dating agency. What matters is whether the relationship works. We are just more aware of the manufacturing process today than people were fifty years ago.

Lack of alternative? Rock and pop groups and bands are forming/being put together all the time and the ones that make it are, by and large, the ones that the public like. There were alternatives to Take That and still are. Are you honestly trying to say that people buy Take That records because there is nothing else in the shops?

I agree about these types of group being manipulated and manufactured but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not a legitimate product. They might well lack many of the qualities of a 'real' band but they still do a job.
 

PaulB

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Mr Pig said:
You think that Motown groups were never put together using similar criteria?

You're not seriously telling me you can compare Take That to ANY Motown band ;) If so, this is over as you can't be dealing from a full deck.
 

yenrod

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Mr Pig said:
My wife took our daughter to see them on Saturday night. I sent her a text about 10pm asking if it was any good and her reply was "You've never seen anything like this"

They got home about 12:30 and Hope was still bouncing. Basically it was like a full circus show plus concert plus firework display plus, plus, plus! Anyone else go?

By the sounds of it if you get the chance to go to this show, take it. I think it's a real piece of work.

Ive heard this about this concert - TT are REALLY goiong to town on this true and total showmen !

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:bravo:
 
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PaulB said:
You're not seriously telling me you can compare Take That to ANY Motown band :smile: If so, this is over as you can't be dealing from a full deck.

His point stands though - you can't dismiss a band because they were put together by a manager. And the comparison with Motown stands up to scrutiny in that respect, the difference being that you like Motown.
 
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And the comparison with Motown stands up to scrutiny

The Supremes for instance. One of Motown's biggest acts, you're trying to say they weren't manipulated by management? Although I guess it depends on which group called The Supremes you're talking about as Motown just swapped out members when one had an issue. None of the group members ever wrote a song either. These nostalgic rose-tinted glasses are in need of a clean.

AC/DC on t'other hand?

Not a huge fan but it should be interesting. My son's only recently decided he likes them but I'm not sure he realises what he's let himself in for! ;0) Can't wait to hear 'Back In Black' live.
 

papercorn2000

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That inconsiderate git Trent Reznor has decided that all the Nine Inch Nails gigs will be on a. whilst I am on holiday or b. otherwise engaged.

That's the last time I buy one of his albums.
 
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