Night Train
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Tea? (Part 2)
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Married to Night Train
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Oh CM, I'm sorry. I did see it, but got distracticated by something else...
Very cute. If I ever have a garden with a water feature.....
Nice load of scrap NT! I look forward to seeing the vast front garden next time I'm over!
cookiemonster
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I love this dog!!!
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Can I ask a question about wine in Tea?
No
, not wine in tea, wine, a question about in Tea?
Along with multitudinous quantities of cakey items, cheese and crackers, I was given four bockles of wine. Red wine, which I do not shusually drink. However, in the sinterests of politeness, I decided to open one of the bockle of red wine this shevening. It is very drinkable indeed. The thing wot surprises me though, is the name: Merlot Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz????? I thought that each one of those was a type of wine, so why has sthis swon sgot all four snames?
No
, not wine in tea, wine, a question about in Tea?Along with multitudinous quantities of cakey items, cheese and crackers, I was given four bockles of wine. Red wine, which I do not shusually drink. However, in the sinterests of politeness, I decided to open one of the bockle of red wine this shevening. It is very drinkable indeed. The thing wot surprises me though, is the name: Merlot Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz????? I thought that each one of those was a type of wine, so why has sthis swon sgot all four snames?
coffeejo
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cookiemonster's already brought along the hairy dog for the morning...Can I ask a question about wine in Tea?
No
Along with multitudinous quantities of cakey items, cheese and crackers, I was given four bockles of wine. Red wine, which I do not shusually drink. However, in the sinterests of politeness, I decided to open one of the bockle of red wine this shevening. It is very drinkable indeed. The thing wot surprises me though, is the name: Merlot Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz????? I thought that each one of those was a type of wine, so why has sthis swon sgot all four snames?
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Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon and Shiraz are all different varieties of grape.
Was this wine Aussie by any chance?
Was this wine Aussie by any chance?
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- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
It is Western Cape, South Africa.
potsy
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You stopped slurring very quicklyIt is Western Cape, South Africa.
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- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
I wash conshentrating.
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- The TerrorVortex
*gross oversimplification alert*
In Europe, you tend to get different grapes grown in different regions. Bordeaux has Merlot, Malbec, Cabernet Sauvignon and a related variety, Cabernet Franc. Similarly Burgundy has Pinot Noir and Gamay, Champagne has Pinot Noir, the related Pinot Meunier, and Chardonnay. And so on.
Back in the day, European wines didn't tend to say what grape they were, just where they came from - regional labelling. So Burgundy would be made from Pinot Noir if it came from the Cote d'Or, or maybe Gamay if it came from Macon or Chalon. The point is, it was made from the right grapes for the region, the ones that had traditionally been used, potentially for hundreds or thousands of years..
Enter New World wine. There were no regions, no traditions, so people planted varieties they thought would grow (or sell) and labelled the bottle accordingly - varietal labelling.
To get back to your specific bottles, Speicher, Cab Sav and Merlot are Bordeaux grapes. Shiraz is also known as Syrah and is widely planted in the Rhone valley. A long way away from Bordeaux, and ordinarily the French wouldn't put Shiraz in a Bordeaux blend. They wouldn't call it Shiraz either, for that matter.
The Aussies would. And do. And that's why I asked. Glad you're enjoying it
Seth Effrica counts as New World, for these purposes...
In Europe, you tend to get different grapes grown in different regions. Bordeaux has Merlot, Malbec, Cabernet Sauvignon and a related variety, Cabernet Franc. Similarly Burgundy has Pinot Noir and Gamay, Champagne has Pinot Noir, the related Pinot Meunier, and Chardonnay. And so on.
Back in the day, European wines didn't tend to say what grape they were, just where they came from - regional labelling. So Burgundy would be made from Pinot Noir if it came from the Cote d'Or, or maybe Gamay if it came from Macon or Chalon. The point is, it was made from the right grapes for the region, the ones that had traditionally been used, potentially for hundreds or thousands of years..
Enter New World wine. There were no regions, no traditions, so people planted varieties they thought would grow (or sell) and labelled the bottle accordingly - varietal labelling.
To get back to your specific bottles, Speicher, Cab Sav and Merlot are Bordeaux grapes. Shiraz is also known as Syrah and is widely planted in the Rhone valley. A long way away from Bordeaux, and ordinarily the French wouldn't put Shiraz in a Bordeaux blend. They wouldn't call it Shiraz either, for that matter.
The Aussies would. And do. And that's why I asked. Glad you're enjoying it
Seth Effrica counts as New World, for these purposes...
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Married to Night Train
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- Salford, UK
Can I ask a question about wine in Tea?
No
Along with multitudinous quantities of cakey items, cheese and crackers, I was given four bockles of wine. Red wine, which I do not shusually drink. However, in the sinterests of politeness, I decided to open one of the bockle of red wine this shevening. It is very drinkable indeed. The thing wot surprises me though, is the name: Merlot Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz????? I thought that each one of those was a type of wine, so why has sthis swon sgot all four snames?
'slike a cocktail of grapes, innit?
or a blended whisky, instead of a single malt.
Personally, I've got
. I'm hoping there might be wine next week, when I'm going to my sister's! 
Arch
Married to Night Train
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*gross oversimplification alert*
In Europe, you tend to get different grapes grown in different regions. Bordeaux has Merlot, Malbec, Cabernet Sauvignon and a related variety, Cabernet Franc. Similarly Burgundy has Pinot Noir and Gamay, Champagne has Pinot Noir, the related Pinot Meunier, and Chardonnay. And so on.
Back in the day, European wines didn't tend to say what grape they were, just where they came from - regional labelling. So Burgundy would be made from Pinot Noir if it came from the Cote d'Or, or maybe Gamay if it came from Macon or Chalon. The point is, it was made from the right grapes for the region, the ones that had traditionally been used, potentially for hundreds or thousands of years..
Enter New World wine. There were no regions, no traditions, so people planted varieties they thought would grow (or sell) and labelled the bottle accordingly - varietal labelling.
To get back to your specific bottles, Speicher, Cab Sav and Merlot are Bordeaux grapes. Shiraz is also known as Syrah and is widely planted in the Rhone valley. A long way away from Bordeaux, and ordinarily the French wouldn't put Shiraz in a Bordeaux blend. They wouldn't call it Shiraz either, for that matter.
The Aussies would. And do. And that's why I asked. Glad you're enjoying it
Seth Effrica counts as New World, for these purposes...
Ooooh! get you, Jilly Goolden....
Friend of mine used to take off for a weekend camping in his van, with a litre plastic bottle of Tesco Value Red Wine, (guaranteed matured in a plastic bucket for three weeks). On the back, where there would normally be a map with a region marked, was an outline of France, and the word "France". Classy.
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Jilly Goolden???? Jancis Robinson, please. She is at least an MW.
I did a wine course, and enjoyed it so much I did it again the following year.
Anyway, it's handy knowing your way around a wine list. Means you don't order a nice robust red to go with your fish.
potsy
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Even I know it's Lambrini with fish
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- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
Whatsever its called, its svery nish.
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