Tea? (Part 2)

[Night Train]

NT has his tumbledryer on top of his washing machine, in a cupboard in the bathroom. There was a door on the cupboard, but he's taken that to use on the new guestroom.

I do know the regs about that. It was never intended to be more then a short term set up and the door, when open ensured that I couldn't touch the electrics and the plumbing, not that I would nor allow moisture to cross between them.

 

[Night Train]

Rule of thumb for joists at 400 centres [with uniformly distributed domestic load]:depth of joists is half span [measured in feet] in inches + 2": ie 6" joist can span 8 feet [8' span x 0.5 = 4 + 2"] under uniform domestic load.

These should be doubled up where bath runs parallel with joists ideally. Under the bath you need full depth blocks between the joists and the bath feet ideally placed over joist lines. [Cross spreading timber plates will help distribute load but you're best calculating the actual load under the bath as a double check]

For guidance have a look at Building Regs Part B on line for various loads for joist spans.

Thank you for that.
The joists were fitted in '96 when I bought the house and were direct replacements for what was there originally, and cover 2/3 of the ceiling of the room below. The otehr 1/3 are still the original joists.
I guess in the 1870's they were less concerned about the 6" joists spanning 16' when the servants wouldn't have had much furniture, nor weighed much in themselves.

Just thinking out loud a bit....
I was thinking of lowering the ceiling in the room below (future living room 16'x16') and was wondering if a 16' RSJ placed across the ceiling to halve the span of the joists would be a good idea. It would have a brick supporting wall to rest on at each end.

 

[Archie_tect]

NT, Have a look at this site... you have to pay for the software but might be useful anyway. Alternatively have a word with your visiting Building Inspector to get the beam calculated out by a friendly structural engineer.. you are getting the alteration work approved under Building Regs and inspected or checked under a Building Notice.... aren't you?

 

[Night Train]

NT, Have a look at this site... you have to pay for the software but might be useful anyway. Alternatively have a word with your visiting Building Inspector to get the beam calculated out by a friendly structural engineer.. you are getting the alteration work approved under Building Regs and inspected or checked under a Building Notice.... aren't you?

The Building Inspector might be the easier route to get the info on that. There is so much planning ahead I have to do....

 

[Night Train]

Up early to go to my first proper psychotherapy session.
Hopefully it will be useful.

to wake me up now after only a couple of hours sleep. I don't know why I stress about it so much.

I should have a day of plastering a ceiling to come back to....

 

[Archie_tect]

Just realised I didn't post the link... and now I can't find it again... but sounds like you won't need it anyway [it was a structural steel calculator software download that you have to pay for].... as you were!

 

[Night Train]

Just back from 'therapy'....

Maybe this should be in things I'd like to say but can't.
Please stop arguing the semantics of 'should' and 'need'. There are things I 'should' change, or achieve, and things I 'need' in life despite managing to meet bills and put food on the table. They are the things that stop me thinking about 'checking out' as the last remaining option!

Got to pull myself back together again so I can get some work done.

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

Just back from 'therapy'....

Maybe this should be in things I'd like to say but can't.
Please stop arguing the semantics of 'should' and 'need'. There are things I 'should' change, or achieve, and things I 'need' in life despite managing to meet bills and put food on the table. They are the things that stop me thinking about 'checking out' as the last remaining option!

Got to pull myself back together again so I can get some work done.

Sounds like there may be a communication difficulty NT. Is your therapist listening?

 

[Night Train]

Sounds like there may be a communication difficulty NT. Is your therapist listening?

She is listening but she seems more set on trying to stop me using 'should' and 'need' in favour of 'would prefer' and 'would like' which isn't the case in where I was getting to, just at the point when she showed me the door as time was up.
She finished with "We should agree to differ on that."

 

[twentysix by twentyfive]

Hmmmph - perhaps she is attempting to break a (negative) cycle or something. I'm in the dark here. You do know best (maybe). I'm a sufferer too and do need the odd break of destructive cycle still.

 

[coffeejo]

for NT.

"Should" and "need" are words frequently used by people to beat themselves up with and if you come across as someone who doesn't give themselves an easy time or puts a lot of demands on oneself, then it tends to set off the Headshrinker's Alarm.

(Excuse the appalling sentence structure, I can't find my brain today.)

Anyone for ?

 

[rikki]

Tea would be good.


Should we look for Jo's brain, or will it come back on its own?

 

[coffeejo]

Thanks Jo, I'm up for a . I was awake at 3.30am.....left the Dales at 6.00am and got back to London at 10.30am. I'm now resting on the sofa. I had thought about a short ride but have decided I'm too

I rode my bike into the village this morning - a 2 mile round trip (for reasons I can't recall, I decided last year that I wouldn't count anything under 5 miles ) will have satisfy the gods of weight loss and exercise as I think that's as much as I can do today.

More ?

 

[potsy]

I rode my bike into the village this morning - a 2 mile round trip (for reasons I can't recall, I decided last year that I wouldn't count anything under 5 miles ) will have satisfy the gods of weight loss and exercise as I think that's as much as I can do today.

More ?

I count every ride, even those of less than a mile, every little helps

Day 2 of the potsy diet, going well so far, in fact I have that many calories left to use today I don't know how I'm going to manage it, might have to open the biscuit tin

?

 

[potsy]

Day 2 (proper) of my diet and I've lost 2lbs.....actually I've lost 7lbs and that's just by switching scales - the ones in my son's bedroom seem to be a bit kinder than the ones in the bathroom.

I reckon the bathroom ones are more likely correct

I do however have a headache, wonder if that's my body rebelling at the lack of cake/chocolate/biscuits?