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classic33

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Well. I'm off to bed folks. Sleep well. Nos da. :hello:
Sithi
 

Shut Up Legs

Down Under Member
Cafe breakfast, grocery shopping, democratic duty and bike cleaning all done :smile:.

Voting in Australian elections is odd:
  • it's compulsory, which I guess is good because more people have to vote, but bad because some people just don't bother voting properly.
  • you run a gauntlet of volunteers trying to thrust how-to-vote leaflets in your face.
  • ballot papers can be ridiculously large, due to the number of minor political parties out there.
For example, today there were 2 ballot papers: one for the Legislative Council (upper house), in which you simply put a number from 1 to 7 for each of the 7 parties.

Then there's another for the Legislative Assembly (lower house), in which there are 2 parts: above the line you put a number 1 next to the party you wish to vote for, and no other numbers. Below the line, you can number 1 to 40 for the 40 candidates from various political parties. That was the option I chose, even though it's more work, because it gives you more control over the voting system. If you simply put a "1" somewhere above the line, then that party's political preferences may go to other parties you don't like - Google "Australian preferential voting" for details: it's messy :wacko:. All I'll say about my vote is that (a) I voted below the line, (b) I put 1 and 2 next to the two Australian Cyclists Party candidates, and then (c) I put the remaining numbers 3 to 40 next to the other candidates.
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
Cafe breakfast, grocery shopping, democratic duty and bike cleaning all done :smile:.

Voting in Australian elections is odd:
  • it's compulsory, which I guess is good because more people have to vote, but bad because some people just don't bother voting properly.
  • you run a gauntlet of volunteers trying to thrust how-to-vote leaflets in your face.
  • ballot papers can be ridiculously large, due to the number of minor political parties out there.
For example, today there were 2 ballot papers: one for the Legislative Council (upper house), in which you simply put a number from 1 to 7 for each of the 7 parties.

Then there's another for the Legislative Assembly (lower house), in which there are 2 parts: above the line you put a number 1 next to the party you wish to vote for, and no other numbers. Below the line, you can number 1 to 4 for the 40 candidates from various political parties. That was the option I chose, even though it's more work, because it gives you more control over the voting system. If you simply put a "1" somewhere above the line, then that party's political preferences may go to other parties you don't like - Google "Australian preferential voting" for details: it's messy :wacko:. All I'll say about my vote is that (a) I voted below the line, (b) I put 1 and 2 next to the two Australian Cyclists Party candidates, and then (c) I put the remaining numbers 3 to 40 next to the other candidates.
We're lucky here. That sort of behaivour at a polling station can, if carried on or a complaint made to the polling station staff get the party banned. At best, they'd be moved away from the polling station.
 

classic33

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Yep. I was tempted to wear the "ONE LESS CAR" t-shirt, but settled for the one I currently had out of the wash, which is the "SHUT UP LEGS" one.
Should have had something like this
I AM 1.jpg
 

172traindriver

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Hi Mr C.
Hows Mutley?
 

172traindriver

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Cafe breakfast, grocery shopping, democratic duty and bike cleaning all done :smile:.

Voting in Australian elections is odd:
  • it's compulsory, which I guess is good because more people have to vote, but bad because some people just don't bother voting properly.
  • you run a gauntlet of volunteers trying to thrust how-to-vote leaflets in your face.
  • ballot papers can be ridiculously large, due to the number of minor political parties out there.
For example, today there were 2 ballot papers: one for the Legislative Council (upper house), in which you simply put a number from 1 to 7 for each of the 7 parties.

Then there's another for the Legislative Assembly (lower house), in which there are 2 parts: above the line you put a number 1 next to the party you wish to vote for, and no other numbers. Below the line, you can number 1 to 40 for the 40 candidates from various political parties. That was the option I chose, even though it's more work, because it gives you more control over the voting system. If you simply put a "1" somewhere above the line, then that party's political preferences may go to other parties you don't like - Google "Australian preferential voting" for details: it's messy :wacko:. All I'll say about my vote is that (a) I voted below the line, (b) I put 1 and 2 next to the two Australian Cyclists Party candidates, and then (c) I put the remaining numbers 3 to 40 next to the other candidates.

That is complicated and you say its compulsory? What sort of percentage manage to avoid it. There must be an element of the population that find a way out of it or don't bother and then have loads of hassle.
Do some just go and spoil the paper as a protest
 

Shut Up Legs

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That is complicated and you say its compulsory? What sort of percentage manage to avoid it. There must be an element of the population that find a way out of it or don't bother and then have loads of hassle.
Do some just go and spoil the paper as a protest
Yes, it's called "informal voting", in which you deliberately make the ballot paper invalid somehow, by omitting needed numbers, marking numbers in the wrong place, drawing appendages, etc. :thumbsup:

(sigh) We won't know the results for a while yet. Polling closes in 90 minutes, but the result may be too close to call, and may take days or weeks to definitely know.
 
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