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[classic33]

Morning all

Watching all that cycling last night makes me want to go to warmer climes, helps if I’d a passport
at the start of the Mallorcan race, they had hailstones.
Argentina or Oz, maybe

You mean take part in the cycling. Other than just watching??

I've not got one either. I'm stumped if anyone wants photo ID as my driving licence is still the old paper one too. Lol.

A chilly one here with forecasted snow showers. Sky is certainly a bit heavy.

Have done no exercise to speak of for nearly 3 weeks with being laid low with tummy and cold bugs. Hopefully get back on it soon.

Never saw January out?
How close did you get?

Good Morning

No nightmares?

Morning??

 

[classic33]

I've not got one either. I'm stumped if anyone wants photo ID as my driving licence is still the old paper one too. Lol.

A chilly one here with forecasted snow showers. Sky is certainly a bit heavy.

Have done no exercise to speak of for nearly 3 weeks with being laid low with tummy and cold bugs. Hopefully get back on it soon.

Ayup stranger. Colds and bugs aside, hope you're not too bad.

You're on SnowWatch after all.

 

[classic33]

Hi, Mo
Good to see you back on track...
My licence is also the old paper one,
I had the ID problem a few weeks ago so I decided to get one as I need it for ID purposes..
Bus Pass ID isn't suitable...
I asked a Scottish airline about flying (internally), they would accept a bus pass for ID but I couldn't put anything in the hold...

just ease back into it all..
I haven't been out since the 16th (after a not bad start to Jan)..

And the airlines can be done for breaking the law. It's a self imposed piece of "law", that they're legally obliged to sort out.

Just take your bike in the cabin. They'll soon realise.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Thats interesting about the weather over there.
I often get out there early March and have often seen snow up on the tops of the mountains.
You tend to forget they also have a bit of a winter over there

I remember being there in the 80s and it snowing on higher ground..
the locals moaning about 48F..

It is an odd one as there is no obligation to carry id in this country as there is in many other countries.
Also you dont need a driving licence if you dont drive and if you dont wish to travel you dont need a passport. However this is where your problems begin as you need id to open something such as a bank account.
Years ago it wasnt like this and there must be a few elderly people that havent got either. Unfortunately they would struggle nowadays.

I wouldn't be bothered about an National Identity Card...
all this pish about 'it invades on your privacy' blah blah...
you CARRY a mobile phone where you are constantly tracked as long as your phone is on and how many folk don't run their phones 24/7?

You mean take part in the cycling. Other than just watching??

I'd rather be out on me bike than sitting here watching the rain and wondering if it will turn to snow at some point..

And the airlines can be done for breaking the law. It's a self imposed piece of "law", that they're legally obliged to sort out.

Just take your bike in the cabin. They'll soon realise.

I once thought of that, Loganair are helpful in that respect and there are some of their fleet where you can take your bike....
saving long train and ferry journeys,
I can see why folk(locals) prefer to fly out and in..
Barra for example..
Choo to Oban then along ferry journey to Castlebay (I'd recommend doing it)..
we drove but I've done the choo journey and like the West Highland Line, do it in autumn when the leaves have fallen off the trees.
The West Highland Line lives up to its reputation....

 

[classic33]

You mean on something like these?


Added incentive if there's something actually running that day.

 

[Andy in Germany]

I wouldn't be bothered about an National Identity Card...
all this pish about 'it invades on your privacy' blah blah...
you CARRY a mobile phone where you are constantly tracked as long as your phone is on and how many folk don't run their phones 24/7?

I never got that either. I've had an ID card since I became a citizen in Germany and it's extremely useful as a proof of identity and proof of address: no more digging up gas bills et c.

And as you say a smart phone tracks you and voice activated home systems listen to you and take the information online so I'm not sure how much privacy people using those have left.

 

[classic33]

I never got that either. I've had an ID card since I became a citizen in Germany and it's extremely useful as a proof of identity and proof of address: no more digging up gas bills et c.

And as you say a smart phone tracks you and voice activated home systems listen to you and take the information online so I'm not sure how much privacy people using those have left.

It wasn't about the card itself, more what would be on it and who'd be able to access what was stored on them.

Too much secrecy about them. I'm not willing to carry a card whose security couldn't be guaranteed. Speaking as an ID theft victim, who has at least one driving licence(Can't drive), passport and two bank accounts opened in my name, with a 1/4 million in cash each case.

 

[Andy in Germany]

It wasn't about the card itself, more what would be on it and who'd be able to access what was stored on them.

Too much secrecy about them. I'm not willing to carry a card whose security couldn't be guaranteed. Speaking as an ID theft victim, who has at least one driving licence(Can't drive), passport and two bank accounts opened in my name, with a 1/4 million in cash each case.

My goodness, what sort of ID cards were they suggesting? No wonder they were so expensive. Were chips being proposed?

I just had a look at mine. It has an embedded photograph, my name, date and place of birth, date of expiry and the number of the card with my embedded signature on the front.

On the back is my height, hair and eye colour, issuing date and authority and my address. Under that is the code for machines to read so it can be used instead of a passport in the EU, which is basically a repeat of the information on the front. It doesn't have any chips or anything like that.

The only person I've heard of here who had their identity stolen happened to have an identical name with someone else who was born on the same day in the same region. I've not come across it otherwise, although I'm sure it happens. I rather suspect the German government is rather better than the UKgov at boring stuff like not losing large amounts of personal data

 

[classic33]

Medical records, police records(if any). Local government(council) records. But they'd not say who'd be able to access what.

Plain old ID card, as many places have, wouldn't bother me.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Medical records, police records(if any). Local government(council) records. But they'd not say who'd be able to access what.

Plain old ID card, as many places have, wouldn't bother me.

Hells bells, no way. I think my medical insurance card has some records on it, but that's separate, and my police records are only available if I ask for them (producing my ID card). The form is sent to my address if it is for my employer, or if I request it to a specific government office, and that's an end to it.

What local government records?

Germany has extremely strict laws in the constitution about what data can be stored and where. I even have effective copyright over my face, which means CCTV cameras are only found on private property.

 

[classic33]

Local government would have included if you were registered to vote, and where, any arrears owing to them.

Biggest problem was who'd be able to access what. The infighting didn't help matters.

I don't carry that much information with me now.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Local government would have included if you were registered to vote, and where, any arrears owing to them.

Biggest problem was who'd be able to access what. The infighting didn't help matters.

I don't carry that much information with me now.

That's another point: we have to register an address, but then we are automatically registered to vote, and the ID card is what shows we can vote (with the slip, obviously)

 

[Bobby Mhor]

It wasn't about the card itself, more what would be on it and who'd be able to access what was stored on them.

Too much secrecy about them. I'm not willing to carry a card whose security couldn't be guaranteed. Speaking as an ID theft victim, who has at least one driving licence(Can't drive), passport and two bank accounts opened in my name, with a 1/4 million in cash each case.

All the information that GCHQ, phone companies etc etc collects on you that eventually finds its way into a central database can be accessed with no problem by depts in say, your local council offices.
There is tremendous laxity in it all..
HERE
RIPA HERE (a PDF file)
and folk worried about identity cards...

 

[classic33]

All the information that GCHQ, phone companies etc etc collects on you that eventually finds its way into a central database can be accessed with no problem by depts in say, your local council offices.
There is tremendous laxity in it all..
HERE
RIPA HERE (a PDF file)
and folk worried about identity cards...

The cards no. What gets put on it and who can legally access what on it, Yes.

No real problem with the council "accessing information", their system is just about running.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

The cards no. What gets put on it and who can legally access what on it, Yes.

No real problem with the council "accessing information", their system is just about running.

We'll agree to disagree or will we