PS - Had a chance to review our stats.
You mention my 'big watts' but considering we are both probably registered at 77kg it is supprising to see such a big difference in our average watts today with mine at W/Kg 4.53 and yours at 3.71.
Perhaps that is something else we could grumble about but at the end of the day the only average figure that matters is 'speed'.
Gail has just requested if someone could go a bit slower on stage 2 so that she doesn't come last again.![]()
I have adopted a riding style which gives me a lot of blue numbers (sprinting, resting, sprinting, resting...), but this difference is too big to explained by just differences in riding styles.PS - Had a chance to review our stats.
You mention my 'big watts' but considering we are both probably registered at 77kg it is supprising to see such a big difference in our average watts today with mine at W/Kg 4.53 and yours at 3.71.
Perhaps that is something else we could grumble about but at the end of the day the only average figure that matters is 'speed'.
Add my name to the list of chain off problems. This had a perfect name Kalamity.Rick your not the only one who had a dropped chain bloody thing spent about a minute trying to get it back on.
Roll on Saturday for the rerun.
I haven't done stage 1 yetGail has just requested if someone could go a bit slower on stage 2 so that she doesn't come last again.![]()
Thanks for arranging this, especially having to approve the rides I always got wrong.Final Results from the Mountain Moose League #1:
1 1 John18 3:27:55,2 0:00:00,0
2 2 Noah 3:32:35,9 0:04:40,7
3 3 Monte 3:34:03,8 0:06:08,5
4 4 Insomina 3:42:55,1 0:14:59,8
5 5 Kev 3:45:52,8 0:17:57,5
6 6 Whorty 3:46:37,1 0:18:41,8
7 7 Soarerv8 3:51:20,4 0:23:25,2
8 8 Spodnie 4:29:17,5 1:01:22,2
9 9 Goldwolfie 4:35:36,4 1:07:41,1
10 10 JLaw 4:35:39,3 1:07:44,1
11 11 C j bon 4:41:40,6 1:13:45,4
12 12 Rob 4:42:04,4 1:14:09,1
13 13 GailB 4:51:31,7 1:23:36,4
14 14 Paul F 4:58:16,2 1:30:20,9
15 15 Kris 5:01:15,7 1:33:20,5
16 16 TheBoxers 5:03:53,6 1:35:58,4
17 17 Baigu 5:07:10,6 1:39:15,3
18 18 Smithy 5:08:43,3 1:40:48,1
I don't think anyone was able to ride Marie Blanque.
Thanks everyone who rode. Hopefully we won't have as many glitches the 2nd time around.
Your explanation makes perfect sense but leaves me kicking myself because perhaps if I had known, the psychological boost I would have got might have helped me to be a minute further up the road. Perhaps the lesson there is to study my wall a bit better before the start of the chaingang ride in future.
I also note your big watts and wonder how and why you are not even faster than you are? But worth considering is that we don't actually know how accurate the wattage readouts are. Myself and LB both replaced our units under warranty because we couldn't get the latest firmware updates on our units. The ones we had actually behaved very much like your classic. The main point being that we both complained about lower wattage readout with the new units. As far as I know my speed up Dhuez is about 4 mins slower than with my old unit. It also cost us a few levels of fitness because of course the power readout was less. I went from pro1 to active 9 and LB's drop was even more pronounced.
One thing I am curious about: Are the speed and power calculated separately or are they a function of one another?
Possibility 1/ LB actually made more power that you today (real watts, not bkool watts). The real power output is driving the speed rather than the wildly innacurate power readout that exists between different units and models.
Possibility 2/ You made a lot more power than LB today but the pro unit has such different/advantageous characteristics that the extra power you make is still not a match for it.
It really is too late to be analysing this and I think I'm confusing myself.
Can't help thinking you'd be quicker on a pro though. Maybe you could take one on a 1 month free trial to find out![]()
I nominate LB & AAAC![]()
My replacement trainer is certainly a lot harder than my original bkool pro, I'm about 6 minutes slower up Alpe d'Heuz and I'm struggling to get to active status (red)... It's also harder on zwift software as I have ridden online with people than I have actually ridden with in real and I struggled to keep up and eventually got dropped and in the real world it would of been the other way round.
Gail has just requested if someone could go a bit slower on stage 2 so that she doesn't come last again.![]()
I have adopted a riding style which gives me a lot of blue numbers (sprinting, resting, sprinting, resting...), but this difference is too big to explained by just differences in riding styles.
I know for a fact that my Bkool Pro displays about 30 watt too much, but the real abnormali is the speed/watt relation. Speed is way to high, but this looks like to be a general Bkool thing.
Could be real interesting to have someone with a power meter measure the Bkool Classic watt difference. Based on a few rides by Pep Tatche (a Bkool Classic owner) I'm guessing the Classic also displays to much power. If not, then Pep must be Pantani reincarnated, because he is one of the few that also reached 6.5 watt/kg on a longer climb session.
Actually no. I think it was Geoff who pointed out that in real life, on a flat section, keeping a constant max watt is the most efficient, due to the way air resistance works against you (squared). So, e.g. 1 hour at 250 watt should be more efficient than 30 min 200 watt + 30 min 300 watt.I'm no expert but for similar weight riders over the same course (particularly one like this with no extreme/long ups or down) whatever style of riding you adopt, if you finish with similar times in reality your average watts should be similar shouldn't they?