Ten houses into two can go.

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Crock of Gold, 24 Jun 2008.

  1. Crock of Gold

    Crock of Gold Guest

    I live in a regular lower-middle class, 20s build, part of SW London. OSP for two cars, 60 foot garden, 3 beds, 2 kids, dish on the roof and a pet toad (Harry) who lives in the shed. Nice avenue (backing onto the mental health institute's gardens). And their Water tower choc a bloc with mobile phone masts can clearly spied from our bedroom.

    5 min walk from the main throughfare into Kingston where cars bomb along at 40, trampling over the forlorn looking "20" painted on the road. Or, more often then not, scootle through doing 5 mph stuck in traffic in a 3 mile tailback.

    10 mins walk from the A3, at a RDB where Tesco's knocked down a pub (when I only ever entered once and was stared at for being posh as I was reading the Daily Mirror, I'm sure) and where Tesco may build another store.

    About 60 houses down my avenue (not road, mind, avenue). Semis.

    A developer has bought a pair of semis on a corner plot, whose gardens fan out. He has put in a proposal to build, in their place, ten semi-townhouses instead. With OSP for two cars. Cue much grinding of teeth from the residents.

    "Think of the noise, the congestion, the children etc..."

    My take on this is that if you want a quiet life don't move to London. I don't have a prob with building more houses here. Even the extra cars are a positive as the increased congestion will lead to slower and - imho - unintentional safer driving (as in central London) for cyclists. Already the avenue (not road) is a single lane with cars parked on either side.

    The more people are gathered together, the more ideas, resources are gathered. And the more civilisation improves.

    If I want a quiet life I shall move to Little Puddlewick by the Green.

    But in the meantime - build away!!! No Nimbyism here.
    Just hope the new residents won't be competing for schoolplaces at the local school.
  2. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman New Member

    Seems to be happening around where we live too. A lot of the older properties are quite large with extensive land/gardens (land was quite cheap around here at one time), and more and more older houses are being demolished and in most cases replaced with many 'Housing Units' (not much space between them though, and the gardens are either non-existent or very small - they all seem to have a parking space or two though). That's beside the new build that's going on apace on any bit of land that's not quite big enough to be called a field.
  3. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    Move to Lancashire, we've plenty of room.
  4. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Salford, UK
    <Adopts militant Yorkism for a moment>

    Yeah, but the downside is, you're in Lancashire ;)
  5. Tharg2007

    Tharg2007 Well-Known Member


    no please don't, we like the space. (plus we dont need any more southern muppets up here thanks, no offence btw) ;)
  6. gavintc

    gavintc Guru

    I can never really understand the (mostly English) view that comfortable living demands living on the ground floor and perhaps with a staircase to one floor up. The rest of Europe and much of Scotland sees no particular problem in living in flats or apartments. Land use in this island is important and gaining more through higher density living would allow more green land for leisure.
  7. Plax

    Plax Veteran

    I hate new builds. They have no character. I went to look at one - it was like a glorified box. Plus the noise from the other houses is horrid. My Nain lives in a fairly new bungalow, you can hear next door fart.

    As for flats, I'm sure you can get some lovely flats, but I don't like them. My bf lives in a flat. It's noisy. Like living in student accomodation all over again. My best friends mum lives in a flat, the person in the flat below her must be deaf - I was there once and you could hear Coronation Street coming from the flat below as clear as day.

    I like my stone built pre-1900's house with a nice garden and walls over a foot thick. Sure you have to cut the grass and can't put a picture up or half the lime plaster will fall off the wall, but at least it has character and is a lot quieter.
  8. gavintc

    gavintc Guru

    Yep, my 1860's flat is certainly better than most built today. But, crap build does not need to be the only option. I never hear the neighbours unless they are having a serious party.
  9. Paulus

    Paulus Getting older by the minute

    Southern muppets:angry: What is it with you northern monkeys that makes you think you are superior?
  10. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    Monkeys? We've no trees around here, we cut them all down for pit props.
  11. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    Another point about new builds - because the windows are so small and the houses are so carefully proportioned around the windows they look bigger than they actually are. When you go inside you realise there's no room for wardrobes or swinging a decent sized cat.

    Edit: Oh, and they don't have chimneys either. No ventilation = damp and smells.
  12. magnatom

    magnatom Guest

    I live in a new build (2001) house and I have to say I am very impressed with the soundproofing. There is a lady with a young girl next door and we never hear a peep from them. It's lucky for them, as we have two very noisy kids!

    I also think our newbuild has some character. It is a little different. I'd post pictures, but these days it is best that the exact place of my residence is kept confidential! ;):smile:
  13. OP
    Crock of Gold

    Crock of Gold Guest

  14. magnatom

    magnatom Guest

    That's another thing our house has a huge window in the lounge which I love (almost ceiling to floor), so sometimes new builds can be done right..... apart from the rotting wood framed windows that we are getting repaired....;)
  15. Yorkshireman

    Yorkshireman New Member

    We don't think we're superior ... We know we're superior ;)
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