The black boxes from Air india disaster.

[night cycler]

Both of the black boxes were retrieved in a relatively short time.

A mayday distress of "no thrust" was made from the cockpit voice recorder (CVR)

No details have been revealed to the public so far from the flight data recorder (FDR).
This is understandable considering the huge task. Obviously the relatives want answers.
Although it was stated that the boxes would be analysed in India, Boeing are on the case.

 

[fossyant]

Watched the last 20 minutes of a programme last night, and it's going to be a big task. There wasn't much left of the plane, and the fact it's crashed into an urban area, makes collecting the bits even more difficult.

 

[fritz katzenjammer]

Oh… Boeing are on it. The inspires confidence.

 

[Drago]

And ageing jet owned and maintained by North Bumf*** Airways doesn't inspire confidence either.

 

[si_c]

And ageing jet owned and maintained by North Bumf*** Airways doesn't inspire confidence either.

The jet was only 11 years old - for context the average age of the fleet for all the major european flag carriers is older.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

The jet was only 11 years old - for context the average age of the fleet for all the major european flag carriers is older.

Poor maintenance regime is of more concern.

 

[Drago]

The jet was only 11 years old - for context the average age of the fleet for all the major european flag carriers is older.

Its still one of the older Dreamliners in service, so is by any sensible definition aging.

 

[si_c]

Its still one of the older Dreamliners in service, so is by any sensible definition aging.

Not for a modern airliner, most are expected to exceed 30 years of life before the airframe requires extended checks. As @Ming the Merciless says it's more likely to be poor maintenance which an affect airframes of any age.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

The must be an interim report within 30 days under international rules, so it won't be long before we have an inkling

 

[albion]

Its still one of the older Dreamliners in service, so is by any sensible definition aging.

According to that ' if anything happens to me it is not suicide' John Barnett, many of these planes were predicted to fail early.
Personally, I would find flying in any mid age Dreamliner a bit of a concern.

 

[Beebo]

Something very odd has happened. The plane had enough thrust to get airborne, then immediately lost power to both engines at the same time.
Lack of fuel would seem to be an option. But to both engines?

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Something very odd has happened. The plane had enough thrust to get airborne, then immediately lost power to both engines at the same time.
Lack of fuel would seem to be an option. But to both engines?

I heard one theory that the aircraft had got so hot whilst on the ground, then being at full power, taking off etc, that the fuel suddenly had started to turn to vapour.
'Vapour Lock' or similar it's called and is a known phenomenon, so they have to try and keep aircraft below a certain temperature.

And yes, both engines use the same system, so it was clearly something to do with the plane itself, not any external forces.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

@Beebo, also bear in mind that the aircraft appeared to need more runway to get airbourne than usual, suggesting that it was perhaps already encountering an issue whilst still on the ground.

 

[Jameshow]

Kin

Not for a modern airliner, most are expected to exceed 30 years of life before the airframe requires extended checks. As @Ming the Merciless says it's more likely to be poor maintenance which an affect airframes of any age.

It's obviously not an airframe issue it that ere the case it would yaw to the side and come down in a unusual glide angle.

It's in my view a fueling issue or bird strike. Fueling being the most likely problem. Which is probably a climate, or maintenance issue??

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Kin


It's obviously not an airframe issue it that ere the case it would yaw to the side and come down in a unusual glide angle.

It's in my view a fueling issue or bird strike. Fueling being the most likely problem. Which is probably a climate, or maintenance issue??

The video never indicated a strike of any kind as you'd have seen the results.

It's a system failure, I am sure of it and the thing of the fuel vapourising is fairly credible.

I expect to be proven wrong however.