Andy in Germany
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I think that's the point, but I also don't think they'll end up as ubiquitous as people believe.
The car manufacturers are coming!!
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I think that's the point, but I also don't think they'll end up as ubiquitous as people believe.
ebikeerwidnes
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Good point
Although a bike with a Tiger Turret on it would take some pedalling
Especially into a head wind - not very aerodynamic!
Jenkins
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Given that Porsche's current 'Sport' model comes in at 23.5kg and £11,000 despite being made of carbon fibre, they've got a long way to go as yet.
Time Waster
Veteran
Throwaway bikes? Ever checked out the metal skip at your local "recycling" centre? Often many bikes in there. The canal fishing guys where we used to live often caught a bike, even they left them at the side unwanted.
Cycleops
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Reminds me of the black country pair Enoch and Eli.
(Said in a thick Brum/black country accent)
Enoch had been fishing in the canal.
What did you catch ? asks Eli.
I caught a whale replies Enoch.
Are you sure? How do you know it was a whale?
It had spokes in it.
Andy in Germany
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Normal bikes have fairly standard parts. This means that even a 'scrap' bike can often be repaired and reused: if a component is broken it can generally be replaced fairly easily, and if the frame is damaged you can still salvage other bits. Many frames and parts on e-bikes are non-standard, I suspect deliberately, so it's harder to salvage parts and reuse them.
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bonzobanana
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Most ebikes sold use fairly generic ebike parts. Proprietary parts are more expensive to manufacture so they are typically on higher priced ebikes but the average price of a bike sold in the UK is only about £400 and that includes ebikes. However that data doesn't come from all retailers but does include independent bike shops or at least the wholesalers and bike brands that supply them.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Electric-Bikes/zgbs/sports/469685031
Proprietary is normally an issue for higher cost bikes or ebikes and less of an issue with cheaper models.
I think its important to point out most European and US bike brands are not manufacturers and those that are often are more assemblers than manufacturers with key parts coming from Asia. Most ebikes come from Asia and those that don't typically have a very high percentage of Asian manufactured parts.
Even if I had the money there is zero chance I would buy a high end Porsche ebike, I'm not into high cost yet disposable products like that.
I can't see Porsche making much of a dent in the marketplace in fact especially here where people's incomes are likely to continue to fall as the interest payments on government debts increase and the government is forced to tax more to pay the interest. Disposable income is likely to fall considerably as it already has and this will continue. Porsche may carve out a significant chunk of the high end niche ebike market but that is still very few ebikes overall compared to the Asian manufacturers and such high cost models are difficult to use day to day without risk of theft.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Electric-Bikes/zgbs/sports/469685031
Proprietary is normally an issue for higher cost bikes or ebikes and less of an issue with cheaper models.
I think its important to point out most European and US bike brands are not manufacturers and those that are often are more assemblers than manufacturers with key parts coming from Asia. Most ebikes come from Asia and those that don't typically have a very high percentage of Asian manufactured parts.
Even if I had the money there is zero chance I would buy a high end Porsche ebike, I'm not into high cost yet disposable products like that.
I can't see Porsche making much of a dent in the marketplace in fact especially here where people's incomes are likely to continue to fall as the interest payments on government debts increase and the government is forced to tax more to pay the interest. Disposable income is likely to fall considerably as it already has and this will continue. Porsche may carve out a significant chunk of the high end niche ebike market but that is still very few ebikes overall compared to the Asian manufacturers and such high cost models are difficult to use day to day without risk of theft.
DRM
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I don’t recall ever seeing a Porsche bike win any bike race, anywhere in the worldI think you will find Porsche has more racing heritage, experience, track record than every pedal bike manfacture combine + more.
For making cars, they CAN‘T compete with an established Taiwanese bike factory that can mass produce bikes
Yes for a Pinarello the same spec as Ineos use, or a UAE Team Emirates Colnago VR4, for example, not some over priced abomination that Porsche come up with, people who spend top dollar on a bike don’t want something innovative that will invariably be heavy and neither one type of bike or another, at a stupid price that Porsche think they can gouge
They won’t bother as they know it’s a total waste of resources, both human and materials and too expensive to contemplate even doing
DRM
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https://shop.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/p/porsche-ebike-sport-P-WAP060EBT0M00/WAP060EBT0M00L
Yours for £11,000 all 21.2 kg of it
https://www.rotwild.com/r.t750-tour/19498
or this for €8,499 which is exactly the same as the above, other than some more sturdy wheels fitted, who would have thought, €2,500 for some Porsche stickers and Swiss Cheese wheels instead of DT Swiss wheels, I saw you coming springs to mind
Yours for £11,000 all 21.2 kg of it
https://www.rotwild.com/r.t750-tour/19498
or this for €8,499 which is exactly the same as the above, other than some more sturdy wheels fitted, who would have thought, €2,500 for some Porsche stickers and Swiss Cheese wheels instead of DT Swiss wheels, I saw you coming springs to mind
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- Inside my skull
Does this mean cup holders are finally coming to e-bikes ?
rikki
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- Limestone Coast, South Australia
Plus heated handlebars, heated seats, air-conditioning, premium sound systems, and keyless entry!
Jenkins
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- Felixstowe
And just dumping it on the pavement while you pop into the shops?
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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I like the term 'powered racing machine' - hah hah. A motorbike ?
