The CC Trig Point bagger thread, now incorporating other interesting geographs

[Richard A Thackeray]

I've just noticed that various scales/ages on the National Library of Scotland OS online site appear to show masons marks (that's what the symbol looks like)
Granted some buildings may not be there now/rebuilt

Have a look at this one, in the town I live it
It's marked as being on top of the railway bridge, over the very busy station/sidings, as they were then

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=53.7021&lon=-1.4218&layers=168&b=1

I have checked with @Drago , out of courtesy, about adding what could be considered a 'spoiler', as he started the thread, & he's fine with it

 

[classic33]

http://maps.nls.uk/view/125641996#zoom=4&lat=1906&lon=8545&layers=BT
&
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/spy/#zoom=18&lat=53.7544&lon=-1.8984&layers=6&b=1&r=38
Everyone seems to be using the the point where the three paths meet and the current road junction for Edge End. The Trig Point is further North and on the Eastern side of where the wall was. The Traversing Point/Bench Mark/Boundary Post is on the Western side of the wall, slightly further South.

@Richard A Thackeray, you've got me overthinking this again with that link!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

@Richard A Thackeray, you've got me overthinking this again with that link!

Cerebral exercise, as well as physical...............

 

[Bobby Mhor]

I've just noticed that various scales/ages on the National Library of Scotland OS online site appear to show masons marks (that's what the symbol looks like)
Granted some buildings may not be there now/rebuilt

Have a look at this one, in the town I live it
It's marked as being on top of the railway bridge, over the very busy station/sidings, as they were then

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=53.7021&lon=-1.4218&layers=168&b=1

I have checked with @Drago , out of courtesy, about adding what could be considered a 'spoiler', as he started the thread, & he's fine with it

@Bobby Mhor, see http://maps.nls.uk/view/125641996#zoom=4&lat=1906&lon=8545&layers=BT
&
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/spy/#zoom=18&lat=53.7544&lon=-1.8984&layers=6&b=1&r=38
Everyone seems to be using the the point where the three paths meet and the current road junction for Edge End. The Trig Point is further North and on the Eastern side of where the wall was. The Traversing Point/Bench Mark/Boundary Post is on the Western side of the wall, slightly further South.
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@Richard A Thackeray, you've got me overthinking this again with that link!

These marks were used as markers in many cases to point to water, sewage etc locations, I'm winging it on this this but I tend to see these arrow marks (without the top levelling marks) on much older properties than from when the OS started the 'mass' marking of levelling. This is my own view as I've not researched this any further, all a guess, I'm afraid.
Some of these marks are pretty brutally done.

@classic33
I've mentioned this before the triangle with a dot in the middle was used by map makers to signify a hill top in earlier days, OS just adopted the mark later as a Trig mark.

The NLS map resource is amazing and It's Scottish, keep out you southerner whippersnappers

 

[classic33]

These marks were used as markers in many cases to point to water, sewage etc locations, I'm winging it on this this but I tend to see these arrow marks (without the top levelling marks) on much older properties than from when the OS started the 'mass' marking of levelling. This is my own view as I've not researched this any further, all a guess, I'm afraid.
Some of these marks are pretty brutally done.

@classic33
I've mentioned this before the triangle with a dot in the middle was used by map makers to signify a hill top in earlier days, OS just adopted the mark later as a Trig mark.

The NLS map resource is amazing and It's Scottish, keep out you southerner whippersnappers

That's why there's a "Buy Button" at the bottom!

 

[Tizme]

I saw this next to the gate in to St Mary & St John Church at Lamyatt:

 

[Bobby Mhor]

That's why there's a "Buy Button" at the bottom!

The mark isn't at the top of the hill. The highest point being West of the wall, North of both Traversing & Trig Point(which is now about six foot under).

I've spent the morning searching Google for a definitive answer,
I'm throwing the towel in..just now

Contact OS and maybe they can fill you in...
I'd a discussion on my blog about White trigs

Found this and point 5 is interesting

HERE

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Extract from Ordnance Survey 1/2,500 Conventional Signs circa 1923
(first trig point erected circa 1936)

Link to HERE

Link to earlier circa 1896 HERE

Hopefully the 1923 one answers both Richard and Classic's questions form earlier, I assume other points (hill tops) were used for the purpose of triangulation pre 1936 when someone sat down and rethought the whole thing out.

Some asides about the trig pillar HERE HERE HERE

@Richard A Thackeray

Your NBM on bridge
SE 3826 2297 38.3743 N 2 3 0.3 1963 PARA RLY BR SW SIDE ALTOFTS RD 49M NW RD JUNC

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Two today..

matched the coordinates and description,
Greenock, Bow Rd (Google Maps shows the levelling line better than my photo)

Bridge of Weir, Torr Rd (normally fly down this road but have been recently doing the drag up to the B road)
Post is worn at the top but as previous, everything matches the description in the database.
There is something 'written' below the mark but can't make it out

 

[biggs682]

Just an old V R post box in Upper Harlestone on this morning's ride

 

[classic33]

Charlestown Road, on what was a goods yard
Wishful thinking?

Not as clear in the picture.
Approx 300 yards further on, and the last that will be seen on that side. (Road level raised some years ago, to even out the slope.)

Cross Hills, junction with Northgate/North Bridge, George VI freestanding box

 

[classic33]

Would it be fair to say that the two on North Bridge, are now lost?
This due to the pavement & road level being raised. The "Clover Leafs" were above knee height at one stage.

 

[PeteXXX]

A few from today’s ride.

A benchmark I’ve not noticed before on the Hill up through Great Houghton.

A utility marker about to get lost in the undergrowth near Blisworth.

And, finally, Flush Bracket 1786, in Newport Pagnell High St.

 

[classic33]

Rivet: Halifax, 6 Carlton Street
Carlton Street, junction with Ferguson Street

What was the Freemasons Lodge. Main enterance. Junction of Blackwall and Bull Close Street
BM or not? The top line is short, but either side of point of the arrow, are 3/4 inch circles.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Whilst out/about today, & keeping an eye on some of the older buildings

1. 'Stevensons Bridge'
Methley/Castleford
I'm never certain whether the implication is the famous father/son, of civil engineering/railways fame, but their name is with a 'ph'
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3856541
https://cyclecityconnect.co.uk/projects/wakefield-to-castleford/



2. Baptist Chapel (1877)
High Street
Normanton
Bench Mark is on the corner
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/228719



3. (junction of) Ashgap Lane & High Street
Normanton
An attempt to bring the sharp turn, that was here, before a re-alignment, to prevent vehicles heading down the steep Ashgap Lane
The house behind was a Doctors Surgery for many years
The arrow would be just behind the photographers right shoulder in this 'Geograph' image
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4772024