the curse of saddles

[peanut]

got out of bed the wrong side this morning did we waffly ? lighten up dear its just CC (chitty chat)

 

[wafflycat]

No, I'm fine ta.

 

[simon_brooke]

This not the case for me. Currently the saddle that causes me least grief is the Specialised body geometry 2 (BG2) with a susp seat post.

I have had Selle Gel thin hard racing gel saddles, Bontrager, San Marco gel racing saddles and various others over the years that I cannot remember but by far the most comfortable for me currently is the Specialised BG2 and it was £25 as well which makes it even more comfortable .

Gel is the problem: it's padding. Get one with no gel. You want them HARD, not 'gel'. Seriously. Go to any audax, and count the number of Brooks saddles. Brooks are as hard as they come, but the audax boys'n'girls mostly use them. Ask yourself why.

 

[Crankarm]

Gel is the problem: it's padding. Get one with no gel. You want them HARD, not 'gel'. Seriously. Go to any audax, and count the number of Brooks saddles. Brooks are as hard as they come, but the audax boys'n'girls mostly use them. Ask yourself why.

Wind your arguementative neck in Brooksie and stop talking out of your 4rse............?

So what saddle do you use?

Have you done a proper survey of types of saddles used by audax riders and any other cyclists you claim to speak for? Brookes saddles I believe start off hard then soften to the shape of one's derriere. They also come with springs on the underside to make for a softer ride so that blows your rock hard saddle arguement out of the water.

You don't seem to be able to read and recognise that others have different experiences and opinions to your own. My saddle is fine I am happy with it. If anyone was looking to change they might consider the one I currently use the Specialised BG2. It's not a problem if they do or don't. There's no right or wrong, it's what keeps you comfortable on your bike for your type of riding.

 

[Globalti]

I have a classic Flite titanium on my road bike and I simply don't notice it.

My wife has just returned to cycling after a year off, with a new Specialized women's MTB with a Spesh women's saddle, which SHOULD be comfortable. She is as sore as a sore thing and we are hoping her nether regions will become accustomed to it in time.

 

[peanut]

Wind your arguementative neck in Brooksie and stop talking out of your 4rse............?

There's no right or wrong, it's what keeps you comfortable on your bike for your type of riding.

 

[trustysteed]

When I bought my road-bike, I knew immediately that I was never going to manage long rides on the thin racing saddle it came with. So I bought a G11 gel saddle from Dave Baters in Downend, Bristol and it has been brilliant. I liked it so much I bought one for my commuter MTB as well. Sure it may weigh twice as much as the original saddle but at least I know I can ride 50 miles and enjoy it rather than feel I'm wearing a thong.

I save those for Sat nites at that special club....

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

actually i agree with simon. i have had a few saddles and even the brooks is uncomfy after 30 miles (easily done 500 miles). but the superlight rock hard titanium selle kevlar has no padding to speak of and is proper comfy. i don't even use padded shorts now as that doesn't help either) but every bum is different

 

[simon_brooke]

Wind your arguementative neck in Brooksie and stop talking out of your 4rse............?

It's your arse we're talking about. However, if you don't believe me, on your own gonads and urethra be it. Literally.

So what saddle do you use?

Have you done a proper survey of types of saddles used by audax riders and any other cyclists you claim to speak for? Brookes saddles I believe start off hard then soften to the shape of one's derriere. They also come with springs on the underside to make for a softer ride so that blows your rock hard saddle arguement out of the water.

I have a Brooks (note, no 'e' if its a saddle) on one bike. It has no springs (and, obviously, no padding). It's true that it does adjust to one's shape gradually over time but it is not true that they soften (I've used this particular one fifteen years; it's still hard as a plank of wood). I also have three Selle Italia SLRs. They are also board-hard and have neither padding nor springs.

You don't seem to be able to read and recognise that others have different experiences and opinions to your own. My saddle is fine I am happy with it.

Fine, but, when you have prostate cancer and erectile disfunction, don't come back and whine to me that I didn't warn you.

 

[Crankarm]

It's your arse we're talking about. However, if you don't believe me, on your own gonads and urethra be it. Literally.



I have a Brooks (note, no 'e' if its a saddle) on one bike. It has no springs (and, obviously, no padding). It's true that it does adjust to one's shape gradually over time but it is not true that they soften (I've used this particular one fifteen years; it's still hard as a plank of wood). I also have three Selle Italia SLRs. They are also board-hard and have neither padding nor springs.



Fine, but, when you have prostate cancer and erectile disfunction, don't come back and whine to me that I didn't warn you.

What a charming person you are . Now you wish prostrate cancer or erectile dysfunction on me. Do you have medical evidence to support your porous arguement that saddle shape causes prostrate cancer?

So you have a Brookes saddle that explains everything - you have an interest............ Nothing better than pushing something you've omitted to mention that you actually own. You probably have a monetary interest in Brookes as well. If they are that good why do so many Pro riders not use them?

 

[Chuffy]

It's true that it does adjust to one's shape gradually over time but it is not true that they soften (I've used this particular one fifteen years; it's still hard as a plank of wood).

That's a common misconception amongst people who don't quite know what they're talking about.
As for research, all you have to do is turn up for an audax or two to see how prevalent Brooks saddles are.

 

[Chuffy]

What a charming person you are . Now you wish prostrate cancer or erectile dysfunction on me. Do you have medical evidence to support your porous arguement that saddle shape causes prostrate cancer?

I've met him. He is (when he isn't shivering and looking like a drowned lurcher).

So you have a Brookes saddle that explains everything - you have an interest............ Nothing better than pushing something you've omitted to mention that you actually own. You probably have a monetary interest in Brookes as well. If they are that good why do so many Pro riders not use them?

Do you not think there might be a reason why he owns a Brooks (and there's still no 'e' in Brooks, but don't worry your pretty little head over that)?
Pro riders used them until plastic saddles (and the attendant sponsor money) became more prevalent. Plus they are heavier than a modern saddle and weight is everything to the modern roadie. Personally I'd look at the long distance guys (and girls) to see what they ride for hundreds and hundreds of miles at a time.

 

[montage]

I've met him. He is (when he isn't shivering and looking like a drowned lurcher).


Do you not think there might be a reason why he owns a Brooks (and there's still no 'e' in Brooks, but don't worry your pretty little head over that)?
Pro riders used them until plastic saddles (and the attendant sponsor money) became more prevalent. Plus they are heavier than a modern saddle and weight is everything to the modern roadie. Personally I'd look at the long distance guys (and girls) to see what they ride for hundreds and hundreds of miles at a time.

I am sure some pro riders do still use brooks/ rolls saddles??

 

[Chuffy]

I am sure some pro riders do still use brooks/ rolls saddles??

Any idea who? I'd like to think that some still do, after all with bike weights hovering at or below the UCI limit the old weight penalty thing isn't really an issue any more. My guess would be that the money firms like Selle Italia and Fi'zik etc put in will be enough to drive a tiny firm like Brooks out of the market. Plus, have you ever seen an off-the-peg racing bike being sold with a Brooks saddles? Plenty of tourers are supplied with them as standard (usually a B17) but road bikes never are, possibly because the racing models (Swift, Swallow) are very expensive.