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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I can cycle to the ground.

Can you take your bike into the ground though? I used to ride to Accy and they'd let me take it into the ground,as long as i left it away from where someone could trip over it. Then they got all heavy about health and safety,saying i had to leave it outside. I now leave it at a friends,across the road from the ground.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Can you take your bike into the ground though? I used to ride to Accy and they'd let me take it into the ground,as long as i left it away from where someone could trip over it. Then they got all heavy about health and safety,saying i had to leave it outside. I now leave it at a friends,across the road from the ground.


Bromley FC is a surprisingly modern ground with good facilities. (It has a 3G pitch). It's also inside a park so the bike stands are well out of the way.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
I see Ronald Koeman is now the bookies' neck and neck favourite with Slaven Bilic to be the next managerial casualty:

http://www.thesackrace.com/next-premier-league-manager-to-leave

Ah well, Ronald, if you sell your main goalscorer and replace him with a load of one paced number 10s, what do you expect?

Think it's going to be a long hard season for Everton. Fourth defeat in a row. Ironically the best performance of those 4 losses, today resulted in the heaviest defeat after a final five minute implosion (which I fully expected once Utd got their second, such is the mental fragility of our team at the moment). Good players but no pace, no width and you're always going to struggle at the back if your defensive linchpin is Ashl(iabilit)ey Williams.
Watching as a neutral, the thing that struck me most - aside from the talent gap - was the commitment. Man U seemed to be relentless: always inyerface, closing down on anyone in possession, running back hard to help out when required. Everton seemed sluggish and even uninterested by comparison, giving the opposition loads of time & room on the ball, and coming back if at all at a jog that suggested they really weren't that bothered whether they got there in time to make a difference or not.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
All this talk of Premiership unrest makes me think about how life's much simpler in the lower leagues. My team's doing ok at the moment. It's early days as they say,but Stanley are looking good at the moment. Could this be their year for promotion? http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...ague-two/11039587/chesterfield-1-2-accrington

On about the Premiership,i noticed Rob Elliot is performing so well for Newcastle these days. He was our goalkeeper when Stanley won the conference 11 years ago. He was a vital part of that promotion winning side. I wouldn't say we wouldn't have won promotion without him,but i don't think we'd have won the league by 11 clear points. Is he one of the best uncapped English goalkeepers around? I'd say if he was from one of the lesser expectations countries like Scotland or Wales:whistle:,he'd have 20-30 caps by now!
Unfortunately it is such a huge export and domestic value I can only see it getting worse. Watching the Chelsea vs Arsenal game and a bit of the Man Utd Everton yesterday makes you realise just how far apart the top 8 are. Not quite as bad as a La Liga but getting there. The rest of the team will fight it out but the money has corrupted the experience from the top to the bottom. Clubs will sell their soul to stay in the league for the income. So the game effectively becomes soulless. Normal supporters priced out of it and really do not feel that affinity with their club that was around 20 years ago. OK that affinity came with its own tribal problems as well but at least you felt part of it. I reckon we are a few seasons away from Sky offering Club season tickets for live games home and away, with a bigger proportion of the revenue going to the clubs.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Unfortunately it is such a huge export and domestic value I can only see it getting worse. Watching the Chelsea vs Arsenal game and a bit of the Man Utd Everton yesterday makes you realise just how far apart the top 8 are. Not quite as bad as a La Liga but getting there. The rest of the team will fight it out but the money has corrupted the experience from the top to the bottom. Clubs will sell their soul to stay in the league for the income. So the game effectively becomes soulless. Normal supporters priced out of it and really do not feel that affinity with their club that was around 20 years ago. OK that affinity came with its own tribal problems as well but at least you felt part of it. I reckon we are a few seasons away from Sky offering Club season tickets for live games home and away, with a bigger proportion of the revenue going to the clubs.
What pissed me off was this fellow.
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Cupping his hand to his ear after he'd scored against his former club,to say to his former fans i don't give a toss about you!
That and the reported attempted theft of his £250,000 Rolls Royce! The money they're on is obscene! Not only the players,but the likes of Lineker raking it in as well. Why the f..k does Phil Neville want a job on the MOTD panel,when he's already a multi millionaire? Not only from his football but also from his wife's inherited family wealth.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Meh. The whole not celebrating against your former club thing is total bollocks.

The best one was Adebayor running the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of Arsenal fans.


This cupping of the ear is a little old hat now. Still,i suppose it's less annoying than the sucking the thumb antics,when they scored a goal, we saw from mostly players on the continent,the other year.
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
If sucking your thumb is good enough for Totti, it's good enough for me.
Jimmy Connors was once asked why he tended to put his hands down his shorts and have a scratch,during matches. He said it was the adult equivalent of toddlers sucking their thumbs.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I do not have an opinion on Football anymore, I support Palace....

Bakery Sako - 55k a week!!? Looked about 4 stone overweight yesterday yet got muscled off a header buy a tiny left back. Puncheon seems to have turned going around in circles in to an art form. And we have somehow converted Cabaye into a second rate midfielder. The One shining light yesterday was Loftus Cheek and he is on loan from those west London twots who have snaffled up all the young talent with no intention of ever bringing them through but cannot bare the thought someone else might want a look in! Then you have our 30 million pound striker who has never really been a lead the line target man yet we seem intent on launching balls at him, wouldn't be that bad but we are launching them 15ft around him, poor sod. We play a natural left footer on the right wing "as he prefers it" and force a right footer to play on the left so you have endless cutting back to try and cross it, even I could defend against those. Players like Delalany and Mutch getting contract extensions and backroom staff having a good splash of ex Palace about them. We hire a Continental coach to play "Barcelona" type possession football, then wonder why is doesn't work out when we have a team that could have been assembled by Graham Taylor to play counter attack or long ball. Then we do not support them in the transfer window. Then Appoint good old Roy. You couldn't make this stuff up really. Hopefully Roy might bring a bit of sanity but I bet he was thinking what have done, this was meant to be my swansong!

I would love to know what clause Pardew signed to keep his gob shut, he has been bursting at the seams trying to keep it in. Chairmen should be seen and not heard, particularly when it comes to team and playing style!!

That's a rubbish statement. The fact that you have Loftus Cheek on loan and many other clubs also have Chelsea players on loan hardly suggest that we have taken away the opportunity for these young players to play does it?

And yes, we do want to bring them through but the reality is that very few will make it into the squads of the top clubs.

At the end of the day these young lads get a shot with a v.good club plus whilst they are with us they get access to world class training facilities etc. They also get huge opportunities when they are loaned out to (usually) decent sides to develop and prove their worth. Chelsea, in common with other major clubs, have long standing relationships with specific European clubs that afford opportunities to youngsters that some clubs simply don't have access to.

For sure it is a big business for Chelsea who have pretty much paved the way in England with the size of the loan squad - cue much slagging off although other clubs are already mimicking the approach. :rolleyes: But, when questioned, quite a few of the loanees that didn't make it with CFC, but who have gone on elsewhere to decent success, have said that they thought the experience was brilliant and wouldn't have changed a thing.
 

Andrew_P

In between here and there
That's a rubbish statement. The fact that you have Loftus Cheek on loan and many other clubs also have Chelsea players on loan hardly suggest that we have taken away the opportunity for these young players to play does it?

And yes, we do want to bring them through but the reality is that very few will make it into the squads of the top clubs.

At the end of the day these young lads get a shot with a v.good club plus whilst they are with us they get access to world class training facilities etc. They also get huge opportunities when they are loaned out to (usually) decent sides to develop and prove their worth. Chelsea, in common with other major clubs, have long standing relationships with specific European clubs that afford opportunities to youngsters that some clubs simply don't have access to.

For sure it is a big business for Chelsea who have pretty much paved the way in England with the size of the loan squad - cue much slagging off although other clubs are already mimicking the approach. :rolleyes: But, when questioned, quite a few of the loanees that didn't make it with CFC, but who have gone on elsewhere to decent success, have said that they thought the experience was brilliant and wouldn't have changed a thing.
Honestly if you can defend Chelsea's youth and loan out and sell on at 25+ I mean being loaned out to Hull aged 25 played for 13 clubs but not made a single appearance even worse you bought him on Deadline day 2015 aged 23 there is a scam in there somewhere because at no point has shown anything like getting close to taking Cahill spot!. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hector

He is probably chuffed and probably signed a contract that now means no one can afford him you could also argue bit like Sako he lost all motivation by the contract and in his case being loaned out all the time The buying up of any even only semi talented players and loaning system is just another example of the power of larger teams strangling the life out of Football all the time clubs lower down are relying on the scraps off the table how will they build a better team.. Loftus Cheek should be on a teams permeant books appearing week in week out and probably a team better than Palace are at the moment. to be honest. But look at Chelsea's midfield he has no chance. Personally if I was a player I would hate it, bit like doing temp work all the time.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
Honestly if you can defend Chelsea's youth and loan out and sell on at 25+ I mean being loaned out to Hull aged 25 played for 13 clubs but not made a single appearance even worse you bought him on Deadline day 2015 aged 23 there is a scam in there somewhere because at no point has shown anything like getting close to taking Cahill spot!. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hector

He is probably chuffed and probably signed a contract that now means no one can afford him you could also argue bit like Sako he lost all motivation by the contract and in his case being loaned out all the time The buying up of any even only semi talented players and loaning system is just another example of the power of larger teams strangling the life out of Football all the time clubs lower down are relying on the scraps off the table how will they build a better team.. Loftus Cheek should be on a teams permeant books appearing week in week out and probably a team better than Palace are at the moment. to be honest. But look at Chelsea's midfield he has no chance. Personally if I was a player I would hate it, bit like doing temp work all the time.

What, like the £115m Palace raked in last season (ex' merchandising/sponsorship etc money) by simply being part of a league that pulls in enormous amounts of revenue. Even more this year if they manage to stay up and they'll still be very well rewarded if they go down.

Let's take the two Manc's, the three big London teams and Liverpool out of the mix and put them all in a Europe wide super-league and then watch the Premiership revenues dry up.

Way too much moaning about the money that the 'big' clubs have without recognising the knock-on benefit of their global appeal to other clubs in the league.
 
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