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AndyRM

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And it looks like game over for Joey...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39720232
 

AndyRM

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Charnley released without charge, for the time being.

It does seem a bit odd that from what I've read he's the only named offender. Or is it that he was the only one to be arrested? Anyway, it adds fuel to the "Newcastle Circus" I suppose.
 

AndyRM

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Bit late seeing this, still funny

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damj

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Strange one really. The lads were awful awful last night but moyes, still annoyingly found positives.
I'll stick my neck out and say stay. Too n as many managers in last 15 years. Ha way the lads
 

AndyRM

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Strange one really. The lads were awful awful last night but moyes, still annoyingly found positives.
I'll stick my neck out and say stay. Too n as many managers in last 15 years. Ha way the lads

I would agree with you there. Too often have Sunderland relied on getting a fiery character in for a last minute boost. Moyes strikes me as the kind of manager who needs time to build, which he wasn't given at Man Utd. Actually, there are some parallels there, inheriting a squad at the end of the line and being expected to work miracles with it.
 

Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
Yes it is a strange one. Moyes did well at Preston, almost getting them in the PL. When he came to Everton in 2002, he reinvigorated the place and was like a massive breath of fresh air. The whole attitude became more positive and determined and we escaped relegation, thanks mainly to his arrival (IMHO). The following season was the best for several years, and apart from a couple of blips (2003/04 when we came 17th and 2005/06 when we had a disastrous start but recovered to finish 11th), we always finished in the top 6 or 7 and even qualified for the CL one season. Many, including me, felt that with more money, he would have taken us further and threatened the established mega rich CL clubs more often. He was a pragmatic manager for us, and whilst at times that resulted in some dour football, at other times we played some great stuff.

However, I reckon Moyes stayed at Everton too long for his own good (but to our advantage because he kept us competing above our financial weight). Because of the financial restraints, he became very cautious and even negative, especially when playing the big sides and ultimately he would always bottle the big occasions such as the 2009 cup final and 2012 semi. The amateur shrink in me reckons circumstances caused him to lose his early hunger and drive, and conditioned him into a negative, cautious mindset which was reflected by remarks he made such as "taking a knife to a gunfight" when we played Man City one time. That mindset seems to transmit to his teams now,

He probably is judged a bit harshly for his time at Utd, apparently his results weren't any worse than Van Gaal overall, but since then at Sociedad and Sunderland he has struggled badly. Even considering the seemingly chaotic boardroom at Sunderland and the lack of player quality, he seems to have lost the plot (and maybe the dressing room), and reports suggest the fans are turning on him big time now.

Very sad, but I think he is yesterday's man, he might not have been if he had gone to somewhere like Utd after about 5 or 6 years at Everton, it might well have been a different story then, The irony is that Everton needed him much more than he needed Everton, and now he has gone, Everton's financial situation has improved massively. I hope he turns things round for himself and Sunderland if he stays there.
 

damj

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Excellent post road hump, he really did an incredible job at Everton. I knew lots of fans who dreaded going there during his reign.
 

Stephenite

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Professional baiting. Aguero walked into Fellaini head first whilst searching for eye-contact with the ref. Stupid of Fellaini, smart and dirty of Aguero.
 
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