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As I said earlier, it's about time someone else (who hasn't been there) is given a chance. I'd like to see Preston North End given that chance. Without looking it up I think they haven't been in the top flight since 1961 when the legendary Tom Finney was probably still playing for them.
Accy, no one is given a chance. You have to earn it, Norwich have done and PNE haven't.
 

AndyRM

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Well it won't be difficult for them to spend within their means as they've been given so much money over the last few years in the form of SKY TV payments, parachute relegation payments etc etc they don't know what to do with it. No doubt they're already planning another promotion attempt for the 2022/23 season, courtesy of many of those millions they keep getting for being a crap team in the Premiership. As I said earlier, it's about time someone else (who hasn't been there) is given a chance. I'd like to see Preston North End given that chance. Without looking it up I think they haven't been in the top flight since 1961 when the legendary Tom Finney was probably still playing for them.


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PNE would be just as much cannon fodder in the English top flight as Norwich have been at times. Both are where they are because they're a poor side.

Norwich may be a 'yo yo club', but at least they know what they're doing off the park. Haven't PNE nearly gone bust twice in their attempts to get out of whatever league they've been in?
 

Accy cyclist

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Accy, no one is given a chance. You have to earn it, Norwich have done and PNE haven't.

My point was/is Joe that this perpetual motion of up and down is made possible by vast amounts of money given to such clubs as Norwich when they get relegated, enabling them to buy promotion back up, if not the following season then maybe a few years later.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
PNE would be just as much cannon fodder in the English top flight as Norwich have been at times. Both are where they are because they're a poor side.
Yes, maybe they would, but it'd be nice to see another/other club(s) become that cannon fodder, instead of the same old 4 or 5 clubs that seem to hog the right to be beaten week in week out, get relegated then bounce back the following season to repeat the process. all over again.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Yes, maybe they would, but it'd be nice to see another/other club(s) become that cannon fodder, instead of the same old 4 or 5 clubs that seem to hog the right to be beaten week in week out, get relegated then bounce back the following season to repeat the process. all over again.

There is a good point here. The parachute payments were originally intended to cushion relegated clubs from the financial impact of relegation. I think it was an understandable move.

Now though those parachute payments are skewing the Championship in favour of relegated PL clubs and that is very definitely unfair. Take a look at this season, I'm not bitter, Fulham and Bournemouth have basically had PL squads playing in the Championship and importantly could afford them. The gulf between Rovers and Bournemouth was plain for all to see yesterday. With 20,000 in the ground a 3-0 defeat might be expected to bring derision and boos. It didn't, we could all see the difference.

Bournemouth strengthened significantly in January. All my lot could do was hold on to what we'd got.
 
My point was/is Joe that this perpetual motion of up and down is made possible by vast amounts of money given to such clubs as Norwich when they get relegated, enabling them to buy promotion back up, if not the following season then maybe a few years later.

I'll agree with that, parachute payments should stop completely. It is up to the PL clubs to have salary cut clauses in players contracts in the event of relegation.
 

AndyRM

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Yes, maybe they would, but it'd be nice to see another/other club(s) become that cannon fodder, instead of the same old 4 or 5 clubs that seem to hog the right to be beaten week in week out, get relegated then bounce back the following season to repeat the process. all over again.
I probably have a softer spot for Norwich than most as I used to work with people from there.

Personally I'm not sure that the parachute payment thing is a huge issue. Norwich have used the money wisely, which is why they've bounced back. Sunderland, for example, have not.
 

Seevio

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Obviously? Have you never seen Weekend at Bernie's?
 

CanucksTraveller

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Solihull Motors would be an odd name, sounds more like a shirt sponsor! Though it sounds like it may have been a workers team in its past, in my fervent imagination anyway.

There's a question, how many professional league clubs have developed from workers' teams at, for example, a factory or similar?
Airbus UK is an obvious modern day one. I also thought Total Network Solutions was one, but it turns out that was just a sponsorship thing.
Without Googling (and forgive me Vickster if my knowledge is off), I believe Arsenal started out as Woolwich Arsenal and were originally all workers at the armaments factory?

Any more?
 
Solihull Motors would be an odd name, sounds more like a shirt sponsor! Though it sounds like it may have been a workers team in its past, in my fervent imagination anyway.

There's a question, how many professional league clubs have developed from workers' teams at, for example, a factory or similar?
Airbus UK is an obvious modern day one. I also thought Total Network Solutions was one, but it turns out that was just a sponsorship thing.
Without Googling (and forgive me Vickster if my knowledge is off), I believe Arsenal started out as Woolwich Arsenal and were originally all workers at the armaments factory?

Any more?

One of my favourites is a team linked to Middlesbrough in the early days. Ironopolis FC, who played at the Paradise ground, and against Woolwich Arsenal, to add another.
 
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